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welshboy
welshboy Registered Posts: 82 Regular contributor โญ
Is it just me or is anybody else really hating revising for PEV & PCR.

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  • Paul24
    Paul24 Registered Posts: 578 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    Is it just me or is anybody else really hating revising for PEV & PCR.


    What areas are you struggling with? Can I offer any help?
  • welshboy
    welshboy Registered Posts: 82 Regular contributor โญ
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    Thankyou Paul,

    I think I will be okay it's just that I don't do much costing within my role so this is taking me time to understand the fundamental grounding of each part.

    I think this is just a subject you need to keep doing and breaking the paper down into each part to understand.

    Thankyou for the offer just feeling a bit frustrated by it all at the moment as these are my final exams.

    Many Thanks

    Matt
  • taskey
    taskey Registered Posts: 1,800 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
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    i feel the same at the moment. i am still going from my books, i have not even started doing past papers yet.

    just over a month and i think i might have to start panicking.

    there just seems to be loads to remember and where to use it.

    Tracy
  • welshboy
    welshboy Registered Posts: 82 Regular contributor โญ
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    I am the same Tracey.

    I have read the book twice now pev is starting to sink in yet PCR seems to be so much to explain and lots more written answers within the exam papers.

    5 weeks to go including this week and the stress is starting to build up.

    Im sure we will all be okay.
  • Paul24
    Paul24 Registered Posts: 578 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    I am the same Tracey.

    I have read the book twice now pev is starting to sink in yet PCR seems to be so much to explain and lots more written answers within the exam papers.

    5 weeks to go including this week and the stress is starting to build up.

    Im sure we will all be okay.

    Well good luck, but any queries between now and the exam, post on here, or pm me.

    Paul
  • gingervicki
    gingervicki Registered Posts: 87 Regular contributor โญ
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    i am feeling really low about it all

    im the same really, nothing seems to be going in, i was pregnant through most of this year and i cant seem to find any information in my head

    none of this is in my normal work so its all a bit alien to me, today after trying a passed paper with what i though i understood i couldnt do it.

    the main area of concern is absorbed things i just dont get it.

    can anyone cheer me up and point me in the right direction, i was all for giving it in earlier but i feel like i have come so far

    thanks

    vicki
  • Paul24
    Paul24 Registered Posts: 578 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    OAR = Budgeted Fixed Costs / Budgeted Activity

    What specifically are you stuck on, I could write reams on here, but I dont know what you dont know :-)
  • PAMDILL
    PAMDILL Registered Posts: 721 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    i do costing as part of my job but it is the fixed overhead variance formulas that get me.
  • gingervicki
    gingervicki Registered Posts: 87 Regular contributor โญ
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    Paul24 wrote: ยป
    OAR = Budgeted Fixed Costs / Budgeted Activity

    What specifically are you stuck on, I could write reams on here, but I dont know what you dont know :-)

    i have got this table to try and help..

    S tandard 1 Efficiency variance
    A bsorbed 1 efficiency variance 2 capacity variance
    B ugeted 2 capacity variance 3 exp variance
    A ctual 3 exp variance

    ok so i put the budgeted and actual figs in later enabling me to work out the variances ( as shown) but i dont get how to work out the absorbed figs and im still stuggling with the standard ones too

    i tried using my table for the 2008 exam and really came unstuck


    vicki
  • taskey
    taskey Registered Posts: 1,800 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
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    hi do you have that in excel that you could send to me or could you explain it a bit better for me.

    Thanks

    Tracy
  • Saz
    Saz Registered Posts: 1 New contributor ๐Ÿธ
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    Me too!

    Me too, I'm really panicing about these 2 exams, thought the BTC would be the hardest but that was easy compared to these! Have now just started doing past papers and realised how little I still know :o(
  • PAMDILL
    PAMDILL Registered Posts: 721 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    i have got this table to try and help..

    S tandard 1 Efficiency variance
    A bsorbed 1 efficiency variance 2 capacity variance
    B ugeted 2 capacity variance 3 exp variance
    A ctual 3 exp variance

    ok so i put the budgeted and actual figs in later enabling me to work out the variances ( as shown) but i dont get how to work out the absorbed figs and im still stuggling with the standard ones too

    i tried using my table for the 2008 exam and really came unstuck


    vicki
    That is about as clear as mud to me.
  • dobbieobby
    dobbieobby Registered Posts: 231 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
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    Ditto, one minute I think I have the first section of PEV, then I do another past exam and it means NOTHING.
    I get the lay out cant always be the same as that wouldnt happen in real life, just give us a clue!
    When it says stuff like: standand usage of materials for actual production I'm stuck.
    I GET it means get the single price of the bugeted kgs and times it by the actual price, but EACH time I somehow get it wrong! I'm starting to REALLY panic now!!
  • Paul24
    Paul24 Registered Posts: 578 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    Std use for actual production is how much you SHOULD have used to yield the ACTUAL output.

    Example

    Component X requires 25kg of raw material

    Actual production was 1000 units using 26000kg of raw material

    The standard useage for actual production would be (25kg * 1000) 25000kg

    The 1000kgs extra used to yield the required qty of components would therefore be multiplied by the Std Cost per kg, to show an adverse material useage variance (you used more than you should have according to the standard)
  • dobbieobby
    dobbieobby Registered Posts: 231 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
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    See Paul, that's the thing (EXCELLENT example by the way) I GET it, I just cant DO it correct everytime!
  • Paul24
    Paul24 Registered Posts: 578 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    All I can reccommend it question practice again and again.

    Paul
  • gingervicki
    gingervicki Registered Posts: 87 Regular contributor โญ
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    ill put it on a sheet and you should be able to see what i mean, its so easy to use too!!

    vicki
  • gingervicki
    gingervicki Registered Posts: 87 Regular contributor โญ
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    PM me your addy and ill send it to you, had to do it on paint as i cant find my excel, my pc is playing up.

    vicki
  • PAMDILL
    PAMDILL Registered Posts: 721 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    I can get the concept of the material and labour variances and even work them out and understand them it is the fixed overhead ones that cause me problems.
  • taskey
    taskey Registered Posts: 1,800 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
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    i am really strugling with absorption - i think i am in my head making it far harder than it actually is.

    i can do some of the variances, but when you look at the answers they have it laid out differently.

    in my bpp text is shows
    should have cost xxx
    did cost xxx

    but in the answers it just gives the figures
    xx.xx / xx.xx = xx.xx

    which way is best? i am thinking more is better as even if the answer is wrong you might get the markrs for the correct workings?

    what do others think?

    tracy
  • PAMDILL
    PAMDILL Registered Posts: 721 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    I have been doing the past papers with laying out everything in the answers as I am pretty sure I am going to screw up Fixed Overheads. As in:

    material usage variance:-

    (actual quantity -standard quantity) x Standard price

    then inserting the workings and giving the answer.
  • gingervicki
    gingervicki Registered Posts: 87 Regular contributor โญ
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    i have learned this too if it helps


    (P)rice variances are based on
    (A)ctual costs
    (U)sage variances are based on
    (S)tandard prices
  • welshboy
    welshboy Registered Posts: 82 Regular contributor โญ
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    I think these exams are just a case or practice practice practice the more that you do sinks in so just keep practicing guys! and Good luck:thumbup:
  • mark130273
    mark130273 Registered Posts: 4,234 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
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    what gets me is just those last 3 !

    fixed cap var
    fixed vol var
    fixed eff var ?

    just wish i had them 3 nailed and think the rest is already there !
  • PAMDILL
    PAMDILL Registered Posts: 721 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
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    what gets me is just those last 3 !

    fixed cap var
    fixed vol var
    fixed eff var ?

    just wish i had them 3 nailed and think the rest is already there !
    Join the club, have you looked at the post Sandy Hood put up for me when he explains them?
  • welshboy
    welshboy Registered Posts: 82 Regular contributor โญ
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    I am baffled by last years variances they just seem a lot longer than previous exams??

    Is it just me as these are driving me insane!
    :thumbdown:
  • CurlyKat
    CurlyKat Registered Posts: 5 New contributor ๐Ÿธ
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    Pev & pcr

    Oh what a nightmare trying to do both of these exams, I think I have mastered one and then I forget the other.

    It driving me crazy:confused1:

    Hows everyone else doing!!!!!!!!!!
  • George Tse
    George Tse Registered Posts: 241 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
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    Yea I'm in same boat as most of you guys except i'm only stuck on the written parts of the questions.

    For the fixed overhead variance I was tough this way

    Fixed overhead expenditure

    Budgeted overheads - Actual overheads

    Fixed overhead volume variance

    Standard hours
    less budgeted hours
    =volume variance x OAR

    I remember this by - Silly Bloody Variance

    Hence the S in silly = Standard hours, B in Bloody = Budgeted hours and V in Variance = Volume

    Fixed overhead Capacity variance

    Actual hours
    less Budgeted hours
    =Capacity variance x OAR

    I remember this by ABC A for Actual Hours B for Budgeted hours and C for capacity varience

    Fixed Overhead Efficiency Variance

    Standard hours
    less actual hours
    =Efficiency Variance x OAR

    I remember this by Stamped Address Envelope

    Hence S in stamped = Standard hours A in Address = Actual hours and E in Envelope = Efficiency Varience

    I hope this helps some of you

    Regards

    Gentle Jesus
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