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  • studentgirl
    studentgirl Registered Posts: 3 New contributor 🐸
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    Could you please put approximate calculations here for a closing stock? Basically, it starts with gross profit calculation. If I am not mistaken, sales were totalled to 129,000 and gross profit supposed to be 35% or 45%, smth like that...
  • KezH
    KezH Registered Posts: 12 New contributor 🐸
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    people keep mentioning p&l sheets that they drew up - i did not attempt this? was it just a guide to help you or was there a question that i missed that required this?
    i did not balance in section 1 - was approx 17k out not sure why so opened a suspense ac.
    section 2 entered opening stock as 30k too so that balanced and therefore profit 70k
    wrong theory right answer:huh:

    No, i think people just mean the P&L column on the ETB x
  • Julie Richards
    Julie Richards Registered Posts: 4 New contributor 🐸
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    think that sales of 129k - margin of 35% so therefore the difference of 65% is the cost ??? not sure though:glare:
  • rachy1975
    rachy1975 Registered Posts: 366 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    people keep mentioning p&l sheets that they drew up - i did not attempt this? was it just a guide to help you or was there a question that i missed that required this?
    i did not balance in section 1 - was approx 17k out not sure why so opened a suspense ac.
    section 2 entered opening stock as 30k too so that balanced and therefore profit 70k
    wrong theory right answer:huh:

    im glad im not the only one to of done that...i entered opening stock of 30k too...lol
  • tigger37
    tigger37 Registered Posts: 200 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    I took 129,000 x 35% to get my gross profit amount. Then I just found the difference between the sales and that to get the cost of goods sold.
  • Julie Richards
    Julie Richards Registered Posts: 4 New contributor 🐸
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    well lets hope theres more of us out there - they may give us some sort of allowence !!! lol - right answer though ? 70k
  • pussycat
    pussycat Registered Posts: 10 New contributor 🐸
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    Could you please put approximate calculations here for a closing stock? Basically, it starts with gross profit calculation. If I am not mistaken, sales were totalled to 129,000 and gross profit supposed to be 35% or 45%, smth like that...
    closing stock calc
    129000 x65/100 = 83850 cost of goods sold
    closing stock then came to 16115 (i think, def 16 something)
  • KezH
    KezH Registered Posts: 12 New contributor 🐸
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    gguest wrote: »
    on the current a/c u needed to share the profit by the profit share which was 60/40 and balance them off

    Yeah, i did do that. I must have messed up on transferring the figures from the TB somehow :001_unsure:, stupid blooming mistake! Oh well, hopefully won't fail just on that. Was expecting not to have had so many problems with this one, i think time was getting on I rushed a bit. x
  • studentgirl
    studentgirl Registered Posts: 3 New contributor 🐸
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    tigger37 wrote: »
    I took 129,000 x 35% to get my gross profit amount. Then I just found the difference between the sales and that to get the cost of goods sold.
    Thank you, I am trying to remember my answer, but my memory is completely blank, but the logic seems to be the same as mine.
  • Rachey
    Rachey Registered Posts: 589 Epic contributor 🐘
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    think that sales of 129k - margin of 35% so therefore the difference of 65% is the cost ??? not sure though:glare:

    Yeh i had £129,000 sales then multiplied by 35% to get the profit margin, that left 65% for Cost Of Sales. I then drew up the top part of the P&L:

    Opening Stock plus Purchases, Minus Closing Stock = Cost of Sales

    Seen as the opening stock was given in the balance sheet for March 2008 (on the perforated page) and we'd already worked out purchases and cost of sales, the above just needed re-jigging to find the missing Closing Stock figure. Mine was 16,115 i think!
  • rachy1975
    rachy1975 Registered Posts: 366 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Rachey wrote: »
    Yeh i had £129,000 sales then multiplied by 35% to get the profit margin, that left 65% for Cost Of Sales. I then drew up the top part of the P&L:

    Opening Stock plus Purchases, Minus Closing Stock = Cost of Sales

    Seen as the opening stock was given in the balance sheet for March 2008 (on the perforated page) and we'd already worked out purchases and cost of sales, the above just needed re-jigging to find the missing Closing Stock figure. Mine was 16,115 i think!

    same as me rachey.....:thumbup1:
  • Rachey
    Rachey Registered Posts: 589 Epic contributor 🐘
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    rachy1975 wrote: »
    same as me rachey.....:thumbup1:

    Great minds think alike :thumbup:
  • LoopyLou!
    LoopyLou! Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    I totally forgot the simplest thing like the layout of the balance sheet :confused1:

    I got 3/4 of the way down and my mind went blank. The figures balanced as per the ETB

    Do you think I'll get penalised badly for not knowing/remembering the layout?

    I feel pretty confident about the rest of the exam and hope that this doesn't amek me fail... If I do, I'll know what it was :mad2:
  • Chomik
    Chomik Registered Posts: 3 New contributor 🐸
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    My answers

    Hello from Bournemouth!

    These are my answers, hopefully correct:

    1.1 a) 79765 ; b) 84765
    1.2 a) 1110 ; b) (1510) loss on disposal ; c) 12200 revised fixtures and fittings; d) 4100 adjusted accumulated depreciation; e) 1215 depreciation charge for the year; f) 5315 updated accumulated depreciation
    1.3 a) 2200 prepayment ; b) 11480 adjusted expenses
    1.4 TB balanced - 162650
    1.5 a) 45150 Profit ; b) 83850 Cost ; c) 16115 Closing stock

    ...

    Suspense account cleared out (Dr 1150 ; Cr 900 + 250)

    TB balanced - profit 70000 P+L balancing figure: 436550 ; B/S balancing figure: 202500

    2.3 Balances on currents accounts: Dave: 22470 ; Eve: 910
    2.4 Net assets: 73380
    2.5 Balances on capital accounts: Dave: 34000 ; Eve: 31000 ; Felix: 60000

    Rings the bell anybody? :blushing:
  • spursfan323
    spursfan323 Registered Posts: 28 Regular contributor ⭐
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    These are my answers for the last question in Task 1, I'm pretty sure I remember the figures still.

    Sales 129,000 x 35% = 45,150 Gross Profit

    129,000 - 45,150 = 83,850 COS

    COS is comprised of Opening Stock + Purchases - Closing Stock

    SO if we know Opening STock is 15,200 and Purchases is 84,765 then Closing Stock must be 16,115
  • safrica
    safrica Registered Posts: 106 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Chomik wrote: »
    Hello from Bournemouth!

    These are my answers, hopefully correct:

    1.1 a) 79765 ; b) 84765
    1.2 a) 1110 ; b) (1510) loss on disposal ; c) 12200 revised fixtures and fittings; d) 4100 adjusted accumulated depreciation; e) 1215 depreciation charge for the year; f) 5315 updated accumulated depreciation
    1.3 a) 2200 prepayment ; b) 11480 adjusted expenses
    1.4 TB balanced - 162650
    1.5 a) 45150 Profit ; b) 83850 Cost ; c) 16115 Closing stock

    ...

    Suspense account cleared out (Dr 1150 ; Cr 900 + 250)

    TB balanced - profit 70000 P+L balancing figure: 436550 ; B/S balancing figure: 202500

    2.3 Balances on currents accounts: Dave: 22470 ; Eve: 910
    2.4 Net assets: 73380
    2.5 Balances on capital accounts: Dave: 34000 ; Eve: 31000 ; Felix: 60000

    Rings the bell anybody? :blushing:

    exactly same as you :thumbup:
  • twinmeister
    twinmeister Registered Posts: 122 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    twaalf punten voor Bournemouth in Engeland

    groetjes uit Nederland

    :thumbup:
  • LoopyLou!
    LoopyLou! Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    safrica wrote: »
    exactly same as you :thumbup:

    Same here from what I can remember :001_smile:
  • Rachey
    Rachey Registered Posts: 589 Epic contributor 🐘
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    Chomik wrote: »
    Hello from Bournemouth!

    These are my answers, hopefully correct:

    1.1 a) 79765 ; b) 84765
    1.2 a) 1110 ; b) (1510) loss on disposal ; c) 12200 revised fixtures and fittings; d) 4100 adjusted accumulated depreciation; e) 1215 depreciation charge for the year; f) 5315 updated accumulated depreciation
    1.3 a) 2200 prepayment ; b) 11480 adjusted expenses
    1.4 TB balanced - 162650
    1.5 a) 45150 Profit ; b) 83850 Cost ; c) 16115 Closing stock

    ...

    Suspense account cleared out (Dr 1150 ; Cr 900 + 250)

    TB balanced - profit 70000 P+L balancing figure: 436550 ; B/S balancing figure: 202500

    2.3 Balances on currents accounts: Dave: 22470 ; Eve: 910
    2.4 Net assets: 73380
    2.5 Balances on capital accounts: Dave: 34000 ; Eve: 31000 ; Felix: 60000

    Rings the bell anybody? :blushing:

    To the penny :thumbup1:
  • lozc34
    lozc34 Registered Posts: 1 New contributor 🐸
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    I like the answers posted they sound very similar to what I put.:thumbup1:
  • angeltastic
    angeltastic Registered Posts: 11 New contributor 🐸
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    Chomik wrote: »
    Hello from Bournemouth!

    These are my answers, hopefully correct:

    1.1 a) 79765 ; b) 84765
    1.2 a) 1110 ; b) (1510) loss on disposal ; c) 12200 revised fixtures and fittings; d) 4100 adjusted accumulated depreciation; e) 1215 depreciation charge for the year; f) 5315 updated accumulated depreciation
    1.3 a) 2200 prepayment ; b) 11480 adjusted expenses
    1.4 TB balanced - 162650
    1.5 a) 45150 Profit ; b) 83850 Cost ; c) 16115 Closing stock

    ...

    Suspense account cleared out (Dr 1150 ; Cr 900 + 250)

    TB balanced - profit 70000 P+L balancing figure: 436550 ; B/S balancing figure: 202500

    2.3 Balances on currents accounts: Dave: 22470 ; Eve: 910
    2.4 Net assets: 73380
    2.5 Balances on capital accounts: Dave: 34000 ; Eve: 31000 ; Felix: 60000

    Rings the bell anybody? :blushing:

    This makes me feel a lot better, a few mistakes for me, but more hopeful now it will be a pass! Thanks for posting....amazing memory you have!:thumbup1:
  • pussycat
    pussycat Registered Posts: 10 New contributor 🐸
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    LoopyLou! wrote: »
    I totally forgot the simplest thing like the layout of the balance sheet :confused1:

    I got 3/4 of the way down and my mind went blank. The figures balanced as per the ETB

    Do you think I'll get penalised badly for not knowing/remembering the layout?

    I feel pretty confident about the rest of the exam and hope that this doesn't amek me fail... If I do, I'll know what it was :mad2:
    the layout was on the first page - on the first task!
  • Rachey
    Rachey Registered Posts: 589 Epic contributor 🐘
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    pussycat wrote: »
    the layout was on the first page - on the first task!

    I was thinking the same, Section 1 had a Balance Sheet for March 2008 on the perforated page :001_unsure:
  • LoopyLou!
    LoopyLou! Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    safrica wrote: »
    exactly same as you :thumbup:
    Rachey wrote: »
    I was thinking the same, Section 1 had a Balance Sheet for March 2008 on the perforated page :001_unsure:

    That'll teach me for not looking through the exam - doh!
    Hope the rest of the of the correct answers that I've got gets me through... I'll kick myself if I fail for that :crying:
  • Rachey
    Rachey Registered Posts: 589 Epic contributor 🐘
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    LoopyLou! wrote: »
    That'll teach me for not looking through the exam - doh!
    Hope the rest of the of the correct answers that I've got gets me through... I'll kick myself if I fail for that :crying:

    You'll not fail for that :001_smile: keep smiling!!!
  • numbersishard
    numbersishard Registered Posts: 12 New contributor 🐸
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    Chomik wrote: »
    Hello from Bournemouth!

    These are my answers, hopefully correct:

    1.1 a) 79765 ; b) 84765
    1.2 a) 1110 ; b) (1510) loss on disposal ; c) 12200 revised fixtures and fittings; d) 4100 adjusted accumulated depreciation; e) 1215 depreciation charge for the year; f) 5315 updated accumulated depreciation
    1.3 a) 2200 prepayment ; b) 11480 adjusted expenses
    1.4 TB balanced - 162650
    1.5 a) 45150 Profit ; b) 83850 Cost ; c) 16115 Closing stock

    ...

    Suspense account cleared out (Dr 1150 ; Cr 900 + 250)

    TB balanced - profit 70000 P+L balancing figure: 436550 ; B/S balancing figure: 202500

    2.3 Balances on currents accounts: Dave: 22470 ; Eve: 910
    2.4 Net assets: 73380
    2.5 Balances on capital accounts: Dave: 34000 ; Eve: 31000 ; Felix: 60000

    Rings the bell anybody? :blushing:

    DING DING from me
  • LoopyLou!
    LoopyLou! Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    Rachey wrote: »
    You'll not fail for that :001_smile: keep smiling!!!

    Thanks Rachey... I hope your right :thumbup1:

    x
  • rachelrunshaw
    rachelrunshaw Registered Posts: 41 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Yes it does with me. I was determinded in this exam to make a note of the answers so I could post on the forum. Unfortunately, I was sat next to the moderator who checked everyone upon leaving.
  • Ickleorla
    Ickleorla Registered Posts: 5 New contributor 🐸
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    Chomik wrote: »
    Hello from Bournemouth!

    These are my answers, hopefully correct:

    1.1 a) 79765 ; b) 84765
    1.2 a) 1110 ; b) (1510) loss on disposal ; c) 12200 revised fixtures and fittings; d) 4100 adjusted accumulated depreciation; e) 1215 depreciation charge for the year; f) 5315 updated accumulated depreciation
    1.3 a) 2200 prepayment ; b) 11480 adjusted expenses
    1.4 TB balanced - 162650
    1.5 a) 45150 Profit ; b) 83850 Cost ; c) 16115 Closing stock

    ...

    Suspense account cleared out (Dr 1150 ; Cr 900 + 250)

    TB balanced - profit 70000 P+L balancing figure: 436550 ; B/S balancing figure: 202500

    2.3 Balances on currents accounts: Dave: 22470 ; Eve: 910
    2.4 Net assets: 73380
    2.5 Balances on capital accounts: Dave: 34000 ; Eve: 31000 ; Felix: 60000

    Rings the bell anybody? :blushing:

    They sure do ring a few bells :thumbup1:

    God only knows how you remembered them all though? :huh:
  • Emma.B10
    Emma.B10 Registered Posts: 27 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Thank God

    How much easier was todays exam than mondays!!! Was well prepared for some dodgy questions to be put in there...but all seemed pretty straight forward....hope i am not getting my hopes up...here is what I got

    Loss on Disposal £1510
    Prepayment £2200
    First Trial Balance £162650
    Profit Margin £45150
    Cost Of Goods £83850
    Closing Stock £16115
    Profit of £70000
    Balance Sheet £73380
    Profit Share £42000 / £28000
    Goodwill £30000 each then split by percentages given etc....

    No major memo's...phew!!!

    Arh....hope it's enough to pass as I am re-sitting monday for sure!!
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