vat debtor end year query

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hi sorry for the duplication if anyone is reading this again, have posted it on the students forum but only had one answer which didnt help, so thought i would try on here. i passed aat last summer and know deep down i know the answer to this but the longer i look the more i cant??? ( it is for my own year end figures)

to work out end year vat debtor for bal sheet:

get diff figures with each method i use and am just in such a block now i give in!!

do i do like a mini vat return and work out input/output and what the debtor would be ( yep said debtor as vat owes me )

or do as follows
open debtor (closing debtor figure from last year) debit
vat on sales thru year ( taken from cashbook totals) credit
vat on purch thru year ( taken from cashbook)
debit
vat reclaimed through year credit

vat on creditors ( vat from creditors that owe at end year) credit
vat on opening creditors ( i assume the figure to use
here is the one from creditors from last year? ) debit
closing debtor ( this should be the balancing figure??) debit

sory cant line figures up (tried) so just put debit and credit,
if i do this i get a lot lower amount!!

please help this block.
thank you
have a good bank holiday!!
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