BTC - common errors summarised

becs129
becs129 Registered Posts: 17 New contributor 🐸
Ok, after reading so many posts from eveyone I would like to clarify the few unusual bits in the exam.

From everything I've read I'm going to summarise what I think we've all more or less agreed should have been done....

Section 1

Expenses:
Harrisons salary - dis-allowable
H's wifes salary - dis-allowable
Son's salary - allowable
Assets taken for own use - £600 added back in.

Capital Allowances:

Main Points -
Separate column for SLA.
Own car restricted to 3000 then apportioned for private use.
FYA on P+M (40 or 50 % can't remember)
Overall allowance 67546 (something like that)

NI:

Class 4-
34840 - 5225 x 1%
(54000ish - 34840) x 8%

Class 2-
£2.20 x 52 weeks


PCTCT:


Adjusted Profits x x x x
less cap. allow ( x x )
add charg. gain x x
PCTCT 54000 ish

Question on duration of keeping records:

6 years


Question on possible taxation of shares sale:


Main points-
* Business asset so allowable for relief
* indexation to adjust for inflation up to April 98
* taper relief resulting in 25% of gain chargeable


Section 2

Shares Disposal


Straight forward, only one indexation needed. Indexed gain was £91. Can't remember my answer for the overall chargeable gain.

IBA:
land cost taken out.
fees regarding land cost left in.
Overall figure x 4% x 10/12


PCTCT

Adj. Profits x x x x x
less Cap. all. ( x x )
less IBA ( x x )
add chrg. gain x x
PCTCT 740,000 ish comes to mind?


Tax calculation

Upper limit 1,500,000 x10/12 = 1,250,000
MR: 1/40 x (1,250,000 - 740000) = 12750 (my answer was more like 16k)

740,000 x 30% = 222,000
less MR (12750)
= x x x x x (my actual answer came to about 190k I think)

Associated company question

Basically ouline that with an associated company the marginal relief bands will be halved. I gave an example that with last years profits they wouldn't have been eligible for marginal relief and would have paid tax at 30%.


>That's all I can remember from section 2!


* * * * any comments please feel free * * * *

Comments

  • umerali2003
    umerali2003 Registered Posts: 400 Dedicated contributor 🦉
    i think it was his daughters salary which was allowable

    there was no son lolzz if my memory serve me correctly
  • Kairi
    Kairi Registered Posts: 25 Regular contributor ⭐
    I am sure it is just a typo but aren't the NIC rates the other way round.
  • pernickety
    pernickety Registered Posts: 47 Regular contributor ⭐
    becs129 wrote: »
    Ok, after reading so many posts from eveyone I would like to clarify the few unusual bits in the exam.

    From everything I've read I'm going to summarise what I think we've all more or less agreed should have been done....

    Section 1

    Expenses:
    Harrisons salary - dis-allowable
    H's wifes salary - dis-allowable
    Son's salary - allowable
    Assets taken for own use - £600 added back in.

    Capital Allowances:

    Main Points -
    Separate column for SLA.
    Own car restricted to 3000 then apportioned for private use.
    FYA on P+M (40 or 50 % can't remember)
    Overall allowance 67546 (something like that)

    NI:

    Class 4-
    34840 - 5225 x 1%
    (54000ish - 34840) x 8%

    Class 2-
    £2.20 x 52 weeks


    PCTCT:


    Adjusted Profits x x x x
    less cap. allow ( x x )
    add charg. gain x x
    PCTCT 54000 ish

    Question on duration of keeping records:

    6 years


    Question on possible taxation of shares sale:


    Main points-
    * Business asset so allowable for relief
    * indexation to adjust for inflation up to April 98
    * taper relief resulting in 25% of gain chargeable


    Section 2

    Shares Disposal


    Straight forward, only one indexation needed. Indexed gain was £91. Can't remember my answer for the overall chargeable gain.

    IBA:
    land cost taken out.
    fees regarding land cost left in.
    Overall figure x 4% x 10/12


    PCTCT

    Adj. Profits x x x x x
    less Cap. all. ( x x )
    less IBA ( x x )
    add chrg. gain x x
    PCTCT 740,000 ish comes to mind?


    Tax calculation

    Upper limit 1,500,000 x10/12 = 1,250,000
    MR: 1/40 x (1,250,000 - 740000) = 12750 (my answer was more like 16k)

    740,000 x 30% = 222,000
    less MR (12750)
    = x x x x x (my actual answer came to about 190k I think)

    Associated company question

    Basically ouline that with an associated company the marginal relief bands will be halved. I gave an example that with last years profits they wouldn't have been eligible for marginal relief and would have paid tax at 30%.


    >That's all I can remember from section 2!


    *My comments on above, as far as I can remember:-
    Section 1 - FYA =50%
    NI - If profit was over £34840 then additional 1% on remainder is right - I cant remember the profit, but know I did not allow for it being over, so know I am wrong on this question as I forgot to. Can't remember the taxable trading profits but agree with the principle. It was not a PCTCT though as self assessment for a small trader.

    Section 2: Indexation on the shares in Section 2 was definitely a two digit figure, but cant remember the overall gain after indexation at all.

    The IBA for section 2 - Was a Limited Co and was definitely a 10month period, 1st April 07 - 31st January 08 but the industrial unit was not brought in to use till 4 months in to that 10 month period - Year started 1st April, and industrial unit not brought in to use till 1st August - so 6/12 is what I used. I seem to be the only one who did this, so I am starting to think I imagined it! Know I got the question wrong in other parts as I know that I did not allow the land levelling (deducted it when I shouldn't have), but checked several times about the unit not in use till 1st August.

    All other bits quoted though I agree with though.
  • cs_1988
    cs_1988 Registered Posts: 231 Dedicated contributor 🦉
    Hi pernickety,

    The IBA is like the WDA, as long as you have it at the end of the year you get 4% or 25%.

    So it's 4% x 10/12. Your mistake is only a 1 or 2 marker though. Nothing to worry about!

    I forgot to that land prep costs are allowable!
  • garry_coombs
    garry_coombs Registered Posts: 108 Dedicated contributor 🦉
    The only things I would change there are:

    1. Class 4 NI rates are the wrong way round

    2. Records are kept for 5 years for a sloe trader
  • George Tse
    George Tse Registered Posts: 241 Dedicated contributor 🦉
    ok his wifes wages is allowable which means u dont add it in the trading profit working. Its only Harrisons salaries thats disallowable !
  • CathG
    CathG Registered Posts: 145 Dedicated contributor 🦉
    ok his wifes wages is allowable which means u dont add it in the trading profit working. Its only Harrisons salaries thats disallowable !

    are you sure his wife's wages were allowable. I disallowed them as it said she didn't actually work for the business?
  • George Tse
    George Tse Registered Posts: 241 Dedicated contributor 🦉
    im not sure but its normaly only the owners wages that are disallowed in a sole trader business
  • GoldenRetreiver
    GoldenRetreiver Registered Posts: 64 Regular contributor ⭐
    I thought his wifes would be allowable - it would be up to her to inform HMR&C about her income so it would not affect his business. The only disallowable amount in salaries were his (I think)
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