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Glynis
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I have been on a question based revision day today and I am appalled at the standard of tuition i received. Well in fact there was no tuition it was simply "here's a question, do it to time and we will mark it." the tutor concerned seemed to have just left school and didn't give us any tuitionand when I criticised her for this she basically dismissed it by saying it wasn't a taught course but a question day and that was it!
I feel that my money has been a waste and will be putting in a formal complaint against this "tutor" both at her college and with the ACCA.
No wonder F8 pass rates are so low when you have tuition like that. It's unbelievable.
I feel that my money has been a waste and will be putting in a formal complaint against this "tutor" both at her college and with the ACCA.
No wonder F8 pass rates are so low when you have tuition like that. It's unbelievable.
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do you ever have anything positive to say?
Always on the downside - never your problem...
Kaplan offer these question based days and described as you found it - you are set a question and it is marked there and then so you have immediate feedback on your answering style. Seems fair enough.
All of the ACCA papers have low pass rates. You are not doing AAT now - but then you had problems with AAT audit paper also from memory...0 -
Yeah thats what the Kaplan revision course is described as, its not the taught course. Its there purely to get you used to the questions and prepared for how to tackle them. I've found all the Kaplan classes I've gone to good quality. But then again I didn't do the revision classes because I thought I could prepare myself for the questions..
Good luck and stay positive
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You're surprised that a course advertised by Kaplan as a QUESTION BASED DAY (I know, I've been on a few), was exactly that?
Beggers belief.0 -
I have been on a question based revision day today and I am appalled at the standard of tuition i received. Well in fact there was no tuition it was simply "here's a question, do it to time and we will mark it." the tutor concerned seemed to have just left school and didn't give us any tuitionand when I criticised her for this she basically dismissed it by saying it wasn't a taught course but a question day and that was it!
I feel that my money has been a waste and will be putting in a formal complaint against this "tutor" both at her college and with the ACCA.
No wonder F8 pass rates are so low when you have tuition like that. It's unbelievable.
As the exam is now only FOUR days away, you should not be requiring tuition at this stage. The idea of a question day is what its name implies - a day of practising questions!
As for you making a formal complaint, you have mentioned in previous posts the name of the provider you had booked your course with. If this is the provider you are now complaining about, the ACCA recently awarded them Platinum status for the standard of their materials.0 -
It clearly states what a QBD is, and the clue is in the title.0
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Glynis, when are you going to stop torturing yourself and give up with this obsession with auditing/chartered status? With all your experience in accounts there must be some other aspect that you are good at, can develope and get satisfaction doing.0
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I know what a question day is all about but I was clearly struggling with the questions and the tutor did nothing to help. Even after the class all she could advise was to do more practise. Big help that was
It's not an obsession I am pursuing my dream and IT WON'T BEAT ME even if tutors and the exam people try to stop you.0 -
People shout at me because of my struggle with the exams but why is it so wrong? Look at people like Sandy Hood and Steve Collings is it wrong to want to be in that league? Is it wrong to want to be able to have your work published and to be able to call yourself a qualified accountant? Is it wrong to want to be able to better yourself. Well?0
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Oh Glynis. You're making the dangerous mistake of becoming overwhelmed and stressed prior to the exam!
First off a question based day is not tuition. Days like this are specifically designed to see how well prepared students are and are undertaken through a day plan so that we can cover a certain number of questions in the day. As a result there is no scope for tuition in these sorts of days. Also, as has already been mentioned, by this time in the exam cycle students should have the syllabus area covered and not require detailed tuition so please do not be too harsh on the tutor you had. Here at BPP we do take student complaints seriously but they have to be justified and simply by complaining you received no tutorial support on your QBD is not really justified as the tutor will have had to accommodate others.
I admire your determination for pursuing ACCA but you have to be realistic and not simply model yourself on individuals such as Steve or Sandy Hood. These individuals have been qualified for a long time and to get to Steve or Sandy's level requires much more than simply letters after your name. You need to be able to take constructive criticism and be able to respond to it. Sometimes (and dont take this personally) you seem to explode if someone criticises you - indeed you have even alienated Steve in the past on here and if you do want to be respected in the profession, you cannot behave in that manner. I doubt very much Steve has ever alienated anyone in his lectures and you need to be able to manage these outbursts.
You have struggled immensely with F8 and I am sure you are aware that ACCA exams get much more tougher than this so try to get your expectations on a much more realistic level and try to take criticism in the spirit it is offered because this will pave the way for a brighter and less stressful future for you.
Good luck in your exams
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Is it wrong to want to be able to better yourself.
Of course not, however, you can only move on and develop if you are willing to learn from your mistakes. This is something it is apparent from these forums that you do not do. Everything is always the fault of someone else.
You have blamed the tutor, and lack of tuition received, for the failure of your question day.
A few weeks ago, you complained about the standard of the revision course you attended.
It was the examiners fault you failed in the December sitting due to a badly worded exam.
You have criticised the ACCA published articles as being unhelpful, I even recommended an auditing book, written by a previous ACCA Audit examiner, especially for students, and you claimed that that didn't help either.
The only way you are going to be successful with any ACCA exam is when you learn to identify where your weaknesses lie, accept them, and work to overcome them.0 -
Julia thank you for your reply but the question day did not benefit me in the slightest. I am aware the exams get harder but I am just focusing on this exam for now.
Richard I see what you are saying but i was not on my own saying that December exam was badly worded which is one reason why I might have failed. I also think the article for F8 is confusing because it covers F7 issues which it should not do as this confuses students like me.0 -
Glynis I have just had a read of the subsequent events article (is this the one you are talking about?) and nowhere in the article does it mention F7. It refers to accounting standards at F3 which are asumed knowledge for your F8 paper. You need to know accounting treatments for F8 and this article underpins that knowledge for you. I don't think it is ambiguous or confusing in any way.
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I did not do F3 as I was exempted. How on earth am I supposed to understand the article if it's based on a paper that I didn't do. This is exactly my point everything involving F8 is unbelievably confusing.0
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Glynis, I think we are going around in circles here. Accounting standards such as those in the Steve Collings F8 article are assumed knowledge so even if you were exempt from F3 you would have had to have done a paper with equal standing at another level, for example AAT DFS/FNST paper, and this knowledge should be retained.
The major work of an auditor is to check compliance with accounting standards and this article you claim to be ambiguous nicely splits out the accounting issues and then leads on to the auditing issues.
I think you should take a deep breath and have a break.0 -
You were exempt from F3 as you passed AAT, and everything that F3 included was covered in you AAT learning - hence the exemption.
Perhaps it is worth looking at a different paper for Dec exams and coming back to audit after a break. You never know you might even pass F8 if you get your head down for the next couple of days and do further revision!0 -
I passed the audit exam with just a BPP text book, no support, past exam papers or guides. I'm not trying to show off, just point out all the information you need is in the text book.
If you study the book, you should have the knowledge, and then the question days should be about technique and nothing else! Because many people that know the subject fail on exam approach.
A colleague found a small private tutor firm, that gives you more contact and hand holding through the revision stage, something similar might be more helpful to you.0 -
People shout at me because of my struggle with the exams but why is it so wrong? Look at people like Sandy Hood and Steve Collings is it wrong to want to be in that league? Is it wrong to want to be able to have your work published and to be able to call yourself a qualified accountant? Is it wrong to want to be able to better yourself. Well?
I'd love to have been an international gymnast but at 5 ft 8 tall and the flexibility of an oak tree, that was never going to happen no matter how much I tried. There was no point persuing my dream as it was an unrealistic dream. Sometimes we just have to admit when we're beaten and move on.0 -
Glynis, people are not necessarily shouting at you because you struggle with the exams but possibly the negative way you go about it, I don't think I have read one of your posts that has actually said something like ' I am struggling with.....but I have managed to grasp..', try and look at the positives, I have exams this week and yes their are certain things that I can't get my head round but I will persuver with those I can and hope they get me trough.People shout at me because of my struggle with the exams but why is it so wrong? Look at people like Sandy Hood and Steve Collings is it wrong to want to be in that league? Is it wrong to want to be able to have your work published and to be able to call yourself a qualified accountant? Is it wrong to want to be able to better yourself. Well?0 -
I have been on a question based revision day - A day based on questions?
there was no tuition it was simply "here's a question, do it to time and we will mark it." - that is the point of a question based revision day!!!
the tutor concerned seemed to have just left school - look, please stop thinking that just because we are all younger it doesnt mean that we are not qualified.. You chose to go on the course, the tutors names and colleges are published before hand, research before commenting next time.
I feel that my money has been a waste and will be putting in a formal complaint against this "tutor" both at her college and with the ACCA.
No wonder F8 pass rates are so low when you have tuition like that. It's unbelievable.
seriously.. this is what your tenth attempt, after slating the exam paper, marker, college, tuition. maybe your just not meant to pass the paper.
I for one will not be offering you help again! Im only 24 so that must mean im incompetant!0 -
seriously.. this is what your tenth attempt, after slating the exam paper, marker, college, tuition. maybe your just not meant to pass the paper.
I for one will not be offering you help again! Im only 24 so that must mean im incompetant!
I'm 24 too, still in nappies it seems. Ah well!0 -
Was the exam today?0
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It was - should have finished right this minute!0
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Bluewednesday wrote: Β»It was - should have finished right this minute!
Ooooh good luck Glynis!0 -
The Audit paper is an afternoon sitting today0
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mini_schnauzer wrote: Β»The Audit paper is an afternoon sitting today
Are you sure? I sat morning exams for all fo them.0 -
By the time Glynis has finished reporting every forum member, tutor, college, tuition provider, recruitment agency, auditor, examiners of professional organisations, factoring employees or employees of any other company and everyone else in the world under the age of fifty, there won't be anyone left to teach future accountants or employ therm.
We might as well turn the lights off now.0 -
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Little error - was this morning! My mind is on other things ... mainly my F9 exam tomorrow!0
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By the time Glynis has finished reporting every forum member, tutor, college, tuition provider, recruitment agency, auditor, examiners of professional organisations, factoring employees or employees of any other company and everyone else in the world under the age of fifty, there won't be anyone left to teach future accountants or employ therm.
We might as well turn the lights off now.
Don't forget the markers - they deserve special attention I believe0 -
Bluewednesday wrote: Β»Don't forget the markers - they deserve special attention I believe
Don't mention that shower of scum....0
