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PGM
PGM Registered Posts: 1,954 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
I put this in chat as its not particularly serious...

I went out for dinner with some friends, and one came up with the idea of having a restaurant review "business".

So he could claim the meal cost and mileage as a business cost!

I suppose you would need some long term plan of bringing in revenue, but an interesting thought still.

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  • AK002
    AK002 Registered Posts: 2,492 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    Do you think a gym membership would be allowable in that line of business :P
  • JaffasGirl
    JaffasGirl Registered Posts: 387 Dedicated contributor πŸ¦‰
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    Isn't that what mystery shopper companies already do? Lol think they may have beaten your friend to it!
  • zara5034
    zara5034 Registered Posts: 170 Dedicated contributor πŸ¦‰
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    I go to a Breakfast Business Club, its a weekly event for small businesses to come together and network etc over breakfast. So does that count?
  • PGM
    PGM Registered Posts: 1,954 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    zara5034 wrote: Β»
    I go to a Breakfast Business Club, its a weekly event for small businesses to come together and network etc over breakfast. So does that count?

    Probably, I'd hardly consider it a frivolous thing to go to. So a ligitimate marketing expense?
  • Monsoon
    Monsoon Registered Posts: 4,071 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    People should not umm and arr over breakfast networking as an allowable expense. Of course it is! :)

    As to the OP, yes, as someone else has said, it's mystery shopping. As long as you could market your reviews back to the restaurants or whatever they do, it would be a business!
  • Luby
    Luby Registered Posts: 51 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Jaffas quote

    β€œNever call an accountant a credit to his profession; a good accountant is a debit to his profession.”

    Doesn't this imply that credits are always negative? Which is not necessarily the case ? sorry bored :)
  • PGM
    PGM Registered Posts: 1,954 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    Monsoon wrote: Β»
    As to the OP, yes, as someone else has said, it's mystery shopping. As long as you could market your reviews back to the restaurants or whatever they do, it would be a business!

    Or a website / blog.

    Could also charge home office expenses as costs.

    It just feels like a tax loophole to me!
  • Monsoon
    Monsoon Registered Posts: 4,071 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    PGM wrote: Β»
    Or a website / blog.

    Could also charge home office expenses as costs.

    It just feels like a tax loophole to me!

    Only if you are actually trading. If you're not generating real income then it would be classed as a hobby trade and any losses would be disallowable against other income in the same year. Arguably if you were doing it through a Ltd Co, the very nature of a Ltd is a trading vehicle and there might be greater scope for offsetting losses against other profits in the same year. But HMRC would want to see you making the effort of profiting from it (in financial, not culinary terms!)
  • PGM
    PGM Registered Posts: 1,954 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    I agree with you there Monsoon.

    There must be a fine line between trading and / hobby trade in many instances.

    Do you know exactly how they differentiate the two?
  • Monsoon
    Monsoon Registered Posts: 4,071 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    PGM wrote: Β»
    I agree with you there Monsoon.

    There must be a fine line between trading and / hobby trade in many instances.

    Do you know exactly how they differentiate the two?

    Badges of trade, I guess. Intention to make profits. Going concern? I've heard it said that after x years of losses they will consider it a hobby trade regardless of other badges of trade, but haven't seen anything official to that end.
  • PGM
    PGM Registered Posts: 1,954 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    Monsoon wrote: Β»
    Badges of trade, I guess. Intention to make profits. Going concern? I've heard it said that after x years of losses they will consider it a hobby trade regardless of other badges of trade, but haven't seen anything official to that end.

    Oh yes the badges of trade, how sooon you can forget these things!

    Good points though! They will weed out the hobby trade.
  • Monsoon
    Monsoon Registered Posts: 4,071 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    I also don't think it would work if you kept 'reviewing' your favourite pub at which you eat every Tuesday :lol:
  • anniem
    anniem Registered Posts: 1,326 Beyond epic contributor πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ
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    I don't think I would want my waistline audited ....... even if it was only annually!!!!!!!
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