Does anybody else feel like this

System
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edited June 18 in AAT member discussion
Hi Guys,

Just wanted to gauge some thoughts of those in Practice.

Do you ever wish that those at the accounting/auditing standards board would just leave things alone with standards. Last year saw the whole revamped auditing standards being put into practice and now bulletins are being issued amending them already. I feel sometimes I could quite easily devote the best part of a week digesting the various amendments to reporting standards and tax issues. Sometimes it can be a struggle keeping up with them!

I spoke to our software support team today just to confirm we are up to date with everything and the guy there said it can be difficult sometimes because a new release is more or less superseded within days of it being sent to us!

Now we have the new Companies Act 2006 and a new FRSSE from 1 January 2007 as well as the various auditing amendments - it wouldn't be so bad if they could just all agree on how the standards should be written instead of tweeking them constantly. Luckily when we've had JMU inspections previously there have never been any problems but I am finding that my time is ever on the increase reviewing files and checking disclosures.

Regards
Steve

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  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    And the really good news is that according to our CPD Accounting Standards Provider, there is a great deal more to come through the pipeline as it has been delayed for some time ........... Yes, I sat through a 3 hour presentation on ASB developments on the said subject. And I am lucky enough to have been examined at AAT Technician on the New Standards DFS in June 2006, others are less fortunate. And we were also informed it is a new criminal offence for reckless auditing, hope our jails have enough spare cells available or maybe it will be community service sweeping the streets.
  • System
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    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    I totally agree! I am able to attend the ICAEW CPD course becasue of my senior, we went on one that Mercia provided, taxation and audit & reporting. One of these speakers roll's was to interpret all of these standards. She said that she is barely on top of them herself. This was her full time job!

    Personally speaking I don't even try to keep on top of them, this is why I talk of IRIS software in such high regard. IRIS is the least mention software amoung all of these reporting CPD course.

    Regards

    Dean
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    Hi Dean,

    I've been on a CPD course run through Mercia but our speaker was a guy and he said exactly the same!!

    The problem I'm finding is just getting the time to keep on top of them. I'm off work next week but am taking a BOX full of literature, bulletins, press releases and tax info to catch up on as in April I am out on site for the whole of the month.

    I was asked by one of our partners here about the implementation of IFRSs in SMEs the other week. I had to to be honest and say it's bad enough trying to keep up with ISA's and the changes in UK standards before I'll even think about looking at how the international standards will affect our clients. I keep looking at the posts on accounting web re international standards and I don't think the international FRSSE is going down very well with practitioners.

    I think in time not even the ASB will know where they are up to!

    Steve
  • System
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    Re:Does anybody else feel like this
    peugeot wrote:
    I'm off work next week but am taking a BOX full of literature, bulletins, press releases and tax info to catch up on...

    Sounds just like my "time-off" :(

    Regards

    Dean
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    For those who are interested

    If anyone feels the need for an accounting standards update overview, I can provide the PDF lengthy version and the powerpoint summary version.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    Hi Alyson,

    thanks for the offer - I'm sure there are some MIPs that may find your offer of valuable help. I've got accounting standards updates currently breeding (or so it seems) all over my office at the minute so I don't think I could handle anymore!

    Thanks anyway.

    Kind regards.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    I wouldn't mind a look at the powerpoint summary if that's ok?

    Regards

    Dean
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    For those that are interested please email me a request at

    rstoakley52@aol.com

    and I will send the attachment(s) by return this evening.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this
    peugeot wrote:
    Hi Dean,

    I've been on a CPD course run through Mercia but our speaker was a guy and he said exactly the same!!

    The problem I'm finding is just getting the time to keep on top of them. I'm off work next week but am taking a BOX full of literature, bulletins, press releases and tax info to catch up on as in April I am out on site for the whole of the month.

    I was asked by one of our partners here about the implementation of IFRSs in SMEs the other week. I had to to be honest and say it's bad enough trying to keep up with ISA's and the changes in UK standards before I'll even think about looking at how the international standards will affect our clients. I keep looking at the posts on accounting web re international standards and I don't think the international FRSSE is going down very well with practitioners.

    I think in time not even the ASB will know where they are up to!

    Steve

    I was going say if it's bad now surely it will be a nightmare when international standards are slapped in? Sorry if that's depressing.

    I don't really know the old stuff (thinking about it don't know much about the new stuff either) but I was lead to believe that there are some significant differences in areas such as leases & revenue recognition.
  • System
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    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    Went on a course yesterday to be told that there will be a completely new set of auditing standards by 2009 (great). The SME IFRS is looking to be brought in around 2008/2009. The exposure draft has been published and comments are invited by October of this year so it is looking imminent now. Looking at the exposure draft for SME IFRS it doesn't look that daunting (only 250+ pages long) as opposed to the god knows how many thousands of pages full IFRS is.

    Regards
    Steve
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    Just to revert back to Lincs point re leases and revenue recognition.

    There have been major changes to FRS 5 - Reporting the Substance of Transactions by virtue of application note G or UITF 40. The UITF states that revenue should be recognised when there is a right to receive economic benefit. Previously work in progress would basically sit on the balance sheet as a current asset until such time it is wholly completed and then subsequently invoiced. The UITF states you have to determine, using best practice estimation techniques, the point at which uninvoiced work gives the seller the right to receive payment/recognise income. This standard has created a lot of unrest within the profession as it means some seller's will have an increased tax charge based on the UITF though the Revenue have introduced spreading provisions which allows the additional tax to be spread over a period of time. Service companies (e.g. solicitors, accountants etc) will be affected by this as they have to recognise a "critical event" i.e. a point in time when the work they have done for a client becomes payable. For example, a firm of accountants would not normally have a large WIP figure on 31 January 2007 as all the tax returns would (or should) be completed. Those practices with a large WIP balance in their balance sheet on 31.1.07 would attract the attention of HM Inspector of Taxes. I am going to prepare an article for the AAT magazine which will go into this in more depth.

    In terms of leases preparers of financial statements/directors have to look at the substance of the lease to determine the actual ownership of an asset to prevent off balance sheet financing. The standard goes on to say that the entity must report the commercial effect of a transaction recognising assets, liabilities, gains and losses and not just report the legal form of the transaction.

    Kind regards
    Steve
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    Another article on UITF 40 is always interesting but I think that everything that can be said on the matter has been said.

    I believe the guidance issued jointly by AAT/ATT was incorrect and even the CIOT did not endorse the guidance. I will therefore be following the CCABs interpretation for the few of my clients (and myself!) that are affected.

    An article in AAT magazine going against their official guidance would be interesting!

    As for accountants with a WIP balance at 31st January..

    ..I'd be interested to know if any accountant has 31st January as their financial year end!
  • System
    System Posts: 100,534 🤖 Admin 🤖
    Re:Does anybody else feel like this

    Hi Dean,

    I'm not necessarily going to go against what the AAT have said but I've had countless numbers of practice notes, bulletins and articles which over-complicate the whole aspect of UITF 40. One thing I am trying to strive towards is simplifying the interpretation of what certain standards state in a more using a more "user-friendly" approach.

    I'm not sure about you, but I cringe when I see an amendment to an FRS because it goes on and on and on and on for example FRS 17 - that standard is pretty straight forward, though if you look at how the accounting standards board have worded it they just over-complicated the whole FRS.

    Kind regards
    Steve

    p.s. our sister practice has 31.01 as its year end!
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