Binge Drinking - another serious one

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edited June 8 in AAT student discussion

Statistics seem to demonstrate that young women are more prone to binge drink than young men.

Does anyone have any serious experiences they would like to pass on?

The images we see in the newspapers are very disturbing, but are they accurate? Do you see young women (or men) collapsed outside bars?

Do you think drugs pay a part in this?

PM me in confidence.

Helen

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  • System
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    I think if you go into town on a friday and saturday evening you will see these sights through alcohol. I do not believe that these people on the whole are mixed up with drugs. I believe that the european example of relaxed license laws, is fantastic, however only if you have grown up with them in place. It is a culture thing, as opposed to something you can put on to people in my opnion expecting them to change their HABITS.

    People have always gone out and got drunk, and fell over. My Grandad was a police officer in the fifties, and his stories just go to prove this. He had just as many fights, trying to arrest drunks (probably more) on his old job as the police nowadays. In my personal experience, I have mainly had trouble with twenty or thirty somethings, as opposed to teenagers who are new to the 'drinking' culture, when I have been out in town.

    It is an example of a paranoid state in my opinion. Scaremongering so to speak.

    Paul.
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    I think that the female binge drinking is a fairly recent phenomenom. When I look back to the late sixties and early seventies it was normally the lads that got wrecked, the girls tended to stay on the babychams, lager/lime and the more refined ladylike drinks. I feel, and I can stand being corrected on this, that we have people like"The Spice girls" to blame for the "girl power" thing and the current girl binge drinking, keeping up with the lads, being "ladettes". I don't think that drugs are as much a problem in the provinces as the news media would have us think.
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    it was normally the lads that got wrecked

    While the women were at home getting the dinner ready. Women were not accepted in mens social circles in these days were they
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    Back int good old days when a pint was 1/2d and a pack of fags was 5 bob ladies tended to be ladies. There were some that could drink the lads under the table, but on the whole, getting drunk was a lads thing whilst the girls tended to help the lads home at the end of the night.
    These days a lot of the"laddettes" seem to have abandoned any pretence of being(what I would call) ladies and are hell bent on destroying their future with drink.
    I made no reference to the women staying at home doing the dinner, but again when you look back, I think women had the responsibility of looking after the home and the children rather than going to the pub drummed into them ,at an early age, by their mothers.
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    In a quiet town in Devon I once saw a drunk girl on the floor with another two girls kicking her in. Both had bottles of drink in their hands.

    About an hour later the girl was still on the floor and not moving and had blood all over her and there was a gang of four or five guys laughing at her and spitting on her, we stayed away but called an ambulance and the police.

    I couldn't believe that a girl could do that to another girl, and I think if they were all sober, it never would have happened.
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    Since this looks an interesting thread, I'll contribute my own take.

    When I think of binge drinking, I tend to associate it more with female drinking since males have always got pissed anyway and fought at the end of the evening, whereas (in the past) females were usually more responsible and exhibited greater self control.

    I personally blame this on two major things;

    The overall breakdown of respect for law, order and care for others amongst certain elements within our society. I think most people over the age of thirty-five to forty years old would agree that things have changed radically in the last ten to twenty years and this loss of respect and control does seem to be accelerating. We live in an increasingly uncaring world and it's scary to think how it will be in another twenty or so years. I live in what was once a lovely and quiet Sussex seaside village however in the the last five years, many parts of it have now become no go areas after dark due to the yob culture.

    The current equality culture where we teach young females that they're exactly the same as males and therefore entitiled to do exactly the same things. While this may be appropriate and overdue in the workplace there are some who take this to the nth degree outside of it. Instead of celebrating and building upon the differences between young men and women that existed for thousands of years, we seem to be programming them into becoming thoughtless, carbon copies of each other resulting in almost absolute losses of sexual identity and gender awareness.

    I watched Vivienne Westwood being interviewed by the BBC this morning just before President Tony's resignation. She admitted to voting labour in 1997 due to the uncaring world left behind by the tories however she couldn't vote for them ten years later since instead of fixing it, all they've given us is an even more uncaring world with even greater problems.

    Robert
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    Thanks to everyone for their posts so far - still room for plenty more!
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    Binge drinking - something I used to do a few years ago but back then it wasn't publicised half as much. Over the past decade there has been a massive press interest on the way women are now taking over from men as the 'main drinkers' and more women are now smoking than ever before.
    FG I think hit it on the head with the cuture of "Ladettes" we now see daily, swanning round the streets at gone 11 on a school night wearing their dark track-suits with pockets lined with Cannabis and god knows what else... and that's the girls.
    Alcohol has become so easy to get a hold of it's untrue - I remember when I was 16 and we went to a shop where my friends were refused beers, I said "Well I'm 18, can I buy it for them"? with no further questioning he handed me 4 crates of lager! There was a story in the paper about a parent buying alcohol for her child and his mates, no doubt once they had finished drinking they were heading onto the streets without a care for themselves nor anyone else they come across.
    No offence here, but Girls are bitchier and nastier than boys, and can start an argument with the drop of a hat - in fact, some carry their own hat incase there's none around to drop! I'm guessing if they weren't stumbling over pavements on their way out of a kebab shop then they would behave in a more dignified way.
    I was working late only a couple of weeks ago, it was a Friday night - I think I told you about it, me getting in at half 11ish... well I was walking through town centre to get myself a cab, a group of girls - no older than 18 - were absolutely hammered; they were across the street shouting how effing fit I was and asking me to get things out for them... at the time very amusing but also an example of how young girls nowadays flaunt themselves to anyone without the 1st bit of precaution for their welfare.
    The same week, a different night - albeit only about 7pmish, I was walking through the same square when BAM, out of no-where, "Hi Darlin', you wanna buy some pills"!... totally taken aback by the bare-faced audacity to stop some stranger in the middle of the street and ask him if he wants to buy some drugs!... just shows how readily available things are these days.
    The press do have a field day with the celebs they picture getting in and out of limos and various other means of transport which projects the image of "Getting hammered and showing your garden is the done and fashionable thing to do" so we see it week in week out in different city centres, only in the city centres there isn't the safety and bodyguards for our "normal society girls (and boys)" instead they only have themselves to look after on another.
    There's been a few times I have sterted the night at 8pm and seen sights you don't expect to see until the early hours of the following morning, it's all the new culture... Students with their student loans and rich parents, Stay-at-home teenagers without an ounce of responsibility and general thugs care for no one and nothing but themselves.
    Going into the solutions to remedy this ever-spiralling problem this country faces probably needs it own seperate discussion - but one thing's for sure, a slap on the face when I was young taught me what my position was in the world and gave me that fear to respect the right people. Kids have it so easy these days and they're untouchable. Drink gives ANYONE the belief they are invincible and in some ways they are - they start a brawl and they face a CHANCE at being arrested - great, 9 times out of 10 the victime drops the charges as they too, were hammered and can do without the hassle - so the perpetrator gets a £80 fine and slap on the wrist.

    I was watching a program the other night about crime and alcohol related beatings on the streets, provoked and unprovoked and Middlesbrough have introduced "SPEAKING CAMERAS" - basically normal CCTV cameras with megaphones attached to the post which the operator can utilise at any time - and it's such a good deterrent in my eyes - knowing a camera is there doesn't come in to a drunk persons' mind but if there's the sound of someone telling you that you're being watched and the police have been called - it may well save hundreds of lives related to alcohol.

    Women these days have such power over men that even when sober they could tell us that 'The man over the other side of the room is looking at me' and we'd go and start a confrontation - when drunk and invincible, it can turn from arguments, pushing and shoving to someone being killed.

    FG has a good point about "Girl Power" and i'm all for them having equal rights without doubt - but I think girls need to realise they are the fairer sex and that they have more dignity to protect than us guys (my opinion) and standards have well and truly slipped.

    Maybe the new goverment will introduce something worthwhile as a deterrent, but at the minute - I cannot see the country getting any better, as Rob said, basically we're on a downward spiral for the next 20 years until the whole generation decide to act appropriately and start teaching their kids the correct morals and respect, but until then, 1 in 10 parents just won't cut it.

    Essay Over.
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    I found it easier to get served when I was 13 than I do now! I got IDed for the first time ever on Easter weekend. So I gave them my cousins ID, who's 21, and the woman said it was fine, and my cousin was standing right next to me.

    But yeah I've been able to get served since I was 13 and I've been clubbing since I was 13/14.

    And I don't know if it's true, but apparantly after a drink, a girls testosterone level increases quicker than a guy who has had a drink.

    I can honestly say there has only been one time when I have been absolutely hammered, and that was a couple of years ago at my exs xmas do, but all I did was fall over a lot and puke everywhere.
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    Gem7321 wrote:
    a girls testosterone level increases quicker than a guy who has had a drink.

    Now that's what you truly call women with balls eh? I certainly wouldn't to mess with your mates, Gem!

    http://www.answers.com/testosterone

    Robert
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    Just something I watched last weekend and that's what they said :P
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