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  • System
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    Actually no the MIPs might get greedy and want some help.
  • System
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    I do have a couple of loaves in the freezer.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    I'll have double please.......Double kisses that is :P
  • System
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    In your dreams, mate. In your dreams.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    the MIP's will have a 3rd round then with no help because of H's freezer.

    Can they claim tax relief on that?
  • System
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    I'm dreaming, babe, I'm dreaming....WOW!
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Not if dividends are involved, might want to tax them :lol:
  • System
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    Tax relief? No - I think it comes under subsistence.

    You can't claim for toast if you're eating it with a mug of tea. On it's own is fine.

    It's all to do with a historical ruling a few years back about defining the word subsistence.

    Apparently, tea is not needed to survive.

  • System
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    What about the water to make it, surely that's allowable. You can't make tea without water? I'm sure S165 ICTA 1657, sub section 45, para (a) sub section B, sub-sub section B1 with reference to para 46 of sub section B5 clarifies this.
  • System
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    Only cold water. Can't claim if it's been heated up.

    Edit: Not sure what happens if you make it with hot water but don't receive it until it's cold.

  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Isn't there a couple of BIM's to cover this. Can you apply the revenu 5 + 5 Rule here, 5 miles from home and 5 hours away? well, 5 hours away from work, not sure about the 5 miles bit?
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Oh, I think the TMA1970 sub section 9 para 1.2 sub-section A with cross reference to ICTA 1543 para 9 section a sub section b sub-sub section 1.2 clarifies this for you.

    it says "cold water is an allowable expense when making tea for fellow AAT colleagues as long as it is wholly, exclusively and necessarily water and the water used is and can be classified as H2O in the normal chemical terms i.e. it can be proved that the water used was wet. Any other form of water is strictly disallowable".

    I think you'll be fine.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    You may well be right. But you can't claim for a flask. I don't think.

  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Flasks are not allowable because the water used in the flask is maintained at pre-determined heat. Unfortunately the heat was predetermined by the inventor of the Thermos flask who did not consult the Inspector of Taxes (a Mr I N S Pector at the local office in Reading.) As such the temperature was never agreed upon and therefore isn't allowable.
  • System
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    Doesn't seem fair, does it?

  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    but can you claim for the Irish de-hydrated water developed during the last water shortage?
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Good question. Steve? Can you ask some of your guys on MIP?
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Char88888888888888 might know, I hear she does a good brew
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    I bet that's not all!
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    I'm afraid not.

    This was heard in the Court of appeal in I N S Pector -v- Hydrate Limited 1988.

    A very common case.

    The court of appeal in Ireland could not prove that the water used was actually wet.

    As a result the Judge, Mr Drinkwater favoured in I N S Pector favour on the basis that it could not be proved that the water met the conditons in the TMA in my previous post and as a result the judgement went in favour of HMRC.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Crazy. Surely someone was taking the p?
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    Nothing to do with "Artic" then? I believe they were involved with freeze drying the water for the Irish?
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    No the Arctic Systems case did use wet water. It was proved in the early stages, though it was heard that HMRC did try to add back a percentage of the wife's usage of the company's water.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    But wasn't the wife's useage proved legal and therefore overturning the HMRC case? So therefore freeze dried water could be accepted, without having to prove that the wife was involved.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    No - the case evaporated before they went to appeal.
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    More likely the revenue lost the evidence. Some one will have left it out in the rain, along with the cake, in McArthur Park!
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    But which one? Richard Harris or Donna Summer?
  • System
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    The House of Lords is reviewing the case. They have doubts as to the running water in Ireland. Mr O'Hydro (Lord Chancellor in Ireland) claims that freeze dried water in Ireland is dry, whereas the LC here claims its wet in view of their TMA1970 ruling.

    It's up for hearing in the House of Lords in the next 27 years and judgement is expected on 4th September 2076 so there'll be a lot of happy faces when that's passed.
  • System
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    27 years? Divisible by 9, so that means it could be a transposed figure that has been omitted from their original calculations?
  • System
    System Posts: 100,537 πŸ€– Admin πŸ€–
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    must be Richard because of the Irish connection.
    Roll on 2076 for the answer. Is there not going to be a judicial revue, in the House of Commons Lords room?( like a little boys room, but with ermine seats)

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