How did the ecr exam go?

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  • Marta_B
    Marta_B Registered Posts: 31 Regular contributor ⭐
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    mona wrote: »
    i used revised figures 250.000 and 400.00
    I remember re-reading the question a couple of times and assumed in the end that if they want us to use our calculations from 2.2 the sales figures used there were the original ones. However now when I think about it I think it would be right to used the revised ones as they are simply more up to date.
  • Dill
    Dill Registered Posts: 23 New contributor 🐸
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    As for the 100,000 I think you had to assume the contract would not be renewed as the value was in the table at the bottom of the left hand page.

    Contributions were 5.15 and 7.75 per machine hour which had to be multiplied by the designated hours (30000 for product A and 40000 for product B). Net Profit at the end should have been 200480.

    This is all if I've done it right :D
  • Essexgal
    Essexgal Registered Posts: 42 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Dill wrote: »
    As for the 100,000 I think you had to assume the contract would not be renewed as the value was in the table at the bottom of the left hand page.

    Contributions were 5.15 and 7.75 per machine hour which had to be multiplied by the designated hours (30000 for product A and 40000 for product B). Net Profit at the end should have been 200480.

    This is all if I've done it right :D

    I got exactly the same so we are either both right or both wrong :tongue_smilie:
  • Hunnie
    Hunnie Registered Posts: 41 Regular contributor ⭐
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    westendlad wrote: »
    thats what I thought so I didn't really count the 100.000 quid at all, other than saying the payback period and the NPV both fell within the criteria and so the project should be accepted

    I would have thought that if they wanted you to take into account the disposal they would have said in the question that the contract was not going to continue after 3 years but as they said it would be either renewed or sold i dont see how you could be sure at that point. my NPV came to 79780 or something similar. I then mentioned the disposal and how likely it would be that the contract be renewed as answers to the 2 commercial factors...did anybody else do this?
  • acc1077
    acc1077 Registered Posts: 138 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Essexgal wrote: »
    I got exactly the same so we are either both right or both wrong :tongue_smilie:
    that makes three of us then
  • mona
    mona Registered Posts: 23 New contributor 🐸
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    Essexgal wrote: »
    I got exactly the same so we are either both right or both wrong :tongue_smilie:

    i got the same. Sounds like right:thumbup1:
  • MOHMEDSALIM PATEL
    MOHMEDSALIM PATEL Registered Posts: 184 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Is There Anyone Who Has The Same Answer As Me ?

    TASK 1.1 AVCO
    1.3 RE- ORDER LEVEL AS WELL AS RE- ORDER QUANTITY POLICY NOT FOLLOWED BY STOCK CONTROLL DEPARTMENT
    TOTAL LABOUR COST PER BOTTLE PRODUCED .20P
    PRIME COST JUST DIRECT COST
    MARGINAL COST =PRIME COST + VARIABLE COST
    FULL ABSOPTION =mARGINAL COST + FIXED COST
    LIMITING FACTORS
    PRODUCT A PRODUCT B
    CONTRIBUTION PER UNIT 1.03 .62
    MACHINE HOUR REQUIRE .2 .08
    CONT, PER MAC/HOUR 5.15 7.75
    RANKING 2 1
    HOURS ALLOCATED 30,000 40,000 70,000
    CONTRIBUTION EARNED 154,500 310,000 464,500

    PAYBACK PERIOD 1.90 YEARS
    NET PRESENT VALUE 153,000 POSITIVE

    PROPOSED PROJECT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED.

    I GOT REALLY BAD FEELING ABOUT COST PER BATCH QUESTION AS TOTAL
    VARIABLE COST IS TOO LOW FOR PER BATCH AS ALL THE OTHER COST WERE GIVEN PER BATCH EXCEPT VARIABLE AND FIXED COST.

    I HOPE EVERYONE OF YOU HAVE QUITE WELL AND I HOPE EVERY EACH OF YOU GET GOOD RESULT AND NICE TIME. NOW I AM STARTING REVISON FOR FRA
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE
  • trouble
    trouble Registered Posts: 11 New contributor 🐸
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    i got 79780 but i think is wrong:(
  • Nizza
    Nizza Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    Pass rate for ECR

    Does anybody have any idea of the pass rate for ECR?
  • acc1077
    acc1077 Registered Posts: 138 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Hunnie wrote: »
    I would have thought that if they wanted you to take into account the disposal they would have said in the question that the contract was not going to continue after 3 years but as they said it would be either renewed or sold i dont see how you could be sure at that point. my NPV came to 79780 or something similar. I then mentioned the disposal and how likely it would be that the contract be renewed as answers to the 2 commercial factors...did anybody else do this?
    I didn't - now i'm concerned
  • trouble
    trouble Registered Posts: 11 New contributor 🐸
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    what figure did you get in task1
  • artist
    artist Registered Posts: 11 New contributor 🐸
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    "Net Profit at the end should have been 200480"

    I got the same
  • mona
    mona Registered Posts: 23 New contributor 🐸
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    Hunnie wrote: »
    I would have thought that if they wanted you to take into account the disposal they would have said in the question that the contract was not going to continue after 3 years but as they said it would be either renewed or sold i dont see how you could be sure at that point. my NPV came to 79780 or something similar. I then mentioned the disposal and how likely it would be that the contract be renewed as answers to the 2 commercial factors...did anybody else do this?

    i must smth miss-read. I remember read - no renewal and will be disposed at 100.000
  • George Tse
    George Tse Registered Posts: 241 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    acc1077 wrote: »
    I didn't - now i'm concerned

    ok that figure sound the the NPC instead of the NPV i got 152.50
  • mona
    mona Registered Posts: 23 New contributor 🐸
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    TASK 1.1 AVCO
    1.3 RE- ORDER LEVEL AS WELL AS RE- ORDER QUANTITY POLICY NOT FOLLOWED BY STOCK CONTROLL DEPARTMENT
    TOTAL LABOUR COST PER BOTTLE PRODUCED .20P
    PRIME COST JUST DIRECT COST
    MARGINAL COST =PRIME COST + VARIABLE COST
    FULL ABSOPTION =mARGINAL COST + FIXED COST
    LIMITING FACTORS
    PRODUCT A PRODUCT B
    CONTRIBUTION PER UNIT 1.03 .62
    MACHINE HOUR REQUIRE .2 .08
    CONT, PER MAC/HOUR 5.15 7.75
    RANKING 2 1
    HOURS ALLOCATED 30,000 40,000 70,000
    CONTRIBUTION EARNED 154,500 310,000 464,500

    PAYBACK PERIOD 1.90 YEARS
    NET PRESENT VALUE 153,000 POSITIVE

    PROPOSED PROJECT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED.

    I GOT REALLY BAD FEELING ABOUT COST PER BATCH QUESTION AS TOTAL
    VARIABLE COST IS TOO LOW FOR PER BATCH AS ALL THE OTHER COST WERE GIVEN PER BATCH EXCEPT VARIABLE AND FIXED COST.

    I HOPE EVERYONE OF YOU HAVE QUITE WELL AND I HOPE EVERY EACH OF YOU GET GOOD RESULT AND NICE TIME. NOW I AM STARTING REVISON FOR FRA
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE

    numbers look familiar.. good luck with FRA. personally it was much easier than ECR
  • Hunnie
    Hunnie Registered Posts: 41 Regular contributor ⭐
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    mona wrote: »
    i must smth miss-read. I remember read - no renewal and will be disposed at 100.000

    i'm sure it said will either be renewed or sold after 3 years....
    to be honest when we came out of our exam it was pretty much 50 / 50
    some people had added on the disposal and some had left it out all together.
    Hopefully this will lower the pass mark for this question!!
  • George Tse
    George Tse Registered Posts: 241 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    mona wrote: »
    numbers look familiar.. good luck with FRA. personally it was much easier than ECR

    i agree :D
  • Essexgal
    Essexgal Registered Posts: 42 Regular contributor ⭐
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    mona wrote: »
    numbers look familiar.. good luck with FRA. personally it was much easier than ECR

    Have you done FRA already?
  • Hunnie
    Hunnie Registered Posts: 41 Regular contributor ⭐
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    ok that figure sound the the NPC instead of the NPV i got 152.50

    79780 was definately not the NPC instead of NPV, as it was calculated using the -600 for the investment...if it was NPC you don't treat the original investment as a minus.
  • George Tse
    George Tse Registered Posts: 241 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    no it dont ask for NPC but the 79780 is wrong
  • George Tse
    George Tse Registered Posts: 241 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Essexgal wrote: »
    Have you done FRA already?

    no no one has yet but i just find it easier
  • mona
    mona Registered Posts: 23 New contributor 🐸
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    Hunnie wrote: »
    i'm sure it said will either be renewed or sold after 3 years....
    to be honest when we came out of our exam it was pretty much 50 / 50
    some people had added on the disposal and some had left it out all together.
    Hopefully this will lower the pass mark for this question!!

    You could be right. I am always really bad at all those questions, always miss smth important :mad2: cant RTFQ properly..
  • Hunnie
    Hunnie Registered Posts: 41 Regular contributor ⭐
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    no it dont ask for NPC but the 79780 is wrong

    I'm not sure...because the question did not state for definate that the contract wouldn't be renewed. The £100,000 would therefore not be counted if the disposal does not go ahead. My class was 50 / 50 on this so can only keep my fingers crossed!
  • mona
    mona Registered Posts: 23 New contributor 🐸
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    Essexgal wrote: »
    Have you done FRA already?

    yes - in december 2007
  • trouble
    trouble Registered Posts: 11 New contributor 🐸
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    does anyone know the exam result date
  • Nizza
    Nizza Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    I think it is 21 August
  • acc1077
    acc1077 Registered Posts: 138 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Results are out in August - I believe by email on 19.08.08 (if you have signed up on my AAT), 20.08.08 midnight on here and by 21.08.08 in the post
  • mona
    mona Registered Posts: 23 New contributor 🐸
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    well lots of answers matching with majority of you guys, so i assume that i did ok. gonna keep fingers crossed and that's it - had enough of this ECR..
    good luck to everybody:thumbup:
  • westendlad
    westendlad Registered Posts: 30 Regular contributor ⭐
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    TASK 1.1 AVCO
    1.3 RE- ORDER LEVEL AS WELL AS RE- ORDER QUANTITY POLICY NOT FOLLOWED BY STOCK CONTROLL DEPARTMENT
    TOTAL LABOUR COST PER BOTTLE PRODUCED .20P
    PRIME COST JUST DIRECT COST
    MARGINAL COST =PRIME COST + VARIABLE COST
    FULL ABSOPTION =mARGINAL COST + FIXED COST
    LIMITING FACTORS
    PRODUCT A PRODUCT B
    CONTRIBUTION PER UNIT 1.03 .62
    MACHINE HOUR REQUIRE .2 .08
    CONT, PER MAC/HOUR 5.15 7.75
    RANKING 2 1
    HOURS ALLOCATED 30,000 40,000 70,000

    CONTRIBUTION EARNED 154,500 310,000 464,500

    PAYBACK PERIOD 1.90 YEARS
    NET PRESENT VALUE 153,000 POSITIVE

    PROPOSED PROJECT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED.

    I GOT REALLY BAD FEELING ABOUT COST PER BATCH QUESTION AS TOTAL
    VARIABLE COST IS TOO LOW FOR PER BATCH AS ALL THE OTHER COST WERE GIVEN PER BATCH EXCEPT VARIABLE AND FIXED COST.

    I HOPE EVERYONE OF YOU HAVE QUITE WELL AND I HOPE EVERY EACH OF YOU GET GOOD RESULT AND NICE TIME. NOW I AM STARTING REVISON FOR FRA
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE

    I'm pretty sure I got those bold figures correct, but what made up the contribution earned again ?

    Edit. I must have got this right, but the figures don't ring a bell .......... does anyone remember what the fixed costs were and so the profit ?
  • sue_391
    sue_391 Registered Posts: 12 New contributor 🐸
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    Looking at the posts I think it has been the same across the board, with them Marginal costing confusion, I think I got it totally wrong :crying:
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