E1

rachy1975
rachy1975 Registered Posts: 356 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
edited 11:34AM in AAT member discussion
Has anyone else started this unit?? If so just wondered how people were getting on with it?
Rach

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  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,427 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    I'm getting on with it... Well, kinda. I've got three chapters to go in my book and then at least I read everything and wrote my summaries where I think I need them.

    However I find it very wordy and still find it difficult to answer the questions asked in practice questions, so I'm pushing myself a bit to get to the revision stage.

    What do you think of it so far?
  • slackda
    slackda Registered Posts: 456 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    I hated E1, from an exam perspective Failed may with 46 and passed in november with 60. now i didn't revise too much for the november sitting but took a different approach to answering the questions.
    From Learning perspective some interesting subject mater and understandings, but such a wide scope of subject matter and models makes it quiet difficult to take it all in.
    But i found that having a general understanding of the subject mater and an ability to speak around it is the key to this exam.

    one guy on a revision course put it to me one way was don't focus to much on the models and matrix's but on making sensible statements using the information in the question.

    The Tutors at BPP advised a Simple Stratagy for answering questions.

    P.E.A
    Point- Make a point.
    Explain that point.
    Apply that to the Question.

    Unless doing question practive for the multiple choice its a very hard one to do the practice questions for as the answers are written in a Format of "ideal" answer, where as when it marker the marker will look for key points that you have raised, so big blocks of text as answers are big no no, looking to produce short statments say 3 lines of information using key words are the key to picking up the marks.
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,427 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    That sounds really helpful. Thanks Slackda!
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    I've read through the book once, and then tried answering some questions and realised I hadn't taken a lot in, so am reading back through the book again slower now and making notes. Am taking much more in and finding it quite interesting in parts, other parts hard to digest!

    It's a nice break not to be learning equations and tables!
  • rachy1975
    rachy1975 Registered Posts: 356 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    Im finding i am not able to answer the questions as wordy as they are.

    You have all made some great points though so thanks...i am intending on reading it a few times :-)

    that P.E.A is brill
  • crispy
    crispy Registered Posts: 468 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    I hated doing this paper as well (I think it was called P4 when I did it), if it wasn't for all the multiple choice and smaller questions at the start I don't think I would of passed.

    If you can completely smash the multi choice questions and do just about enough on the wordy stuff you should be ok, doesn't help being the most boring paper.
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,427 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    P.E.A
    Point- Make a point.
    Explain that point.
    Apply that to the Question.

    Unless doing question practive for the multiple choice its a very hard one to do the practice questions for as the answers are written in a Format of "ideal" answer, where as when it marker the marker will look for key points that you have raised, so big blocks of text as answers are big no no, looking to produce short statments say 3 lines of information using key words are the key to picking up the marks.

    I still am at the stage that where I try to write the answer in explain something, I end up with either a one-line explanation and then run out of things to say or I start waffling so bad, I just figure I might as well cross it all out.
    You have all made some great points though so thanks...i am intending on reading it a few times :-)

    that P.E.A is brill

    Totally agree with you here!
  • slackda
    slackda Registered Posts: 456 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    Rinske wrote: ยป
    I still am at the stage that where I try to write the answer in explain something, I end up with either a one-line explanation and then run out of things to say or I start waffling so bad, I just figure I might as well cross it all out.



    Totally agree with you here!

    On the Short form questions i.e the 5 Marker, you can get away with bullit points/One liners

    i.e Construct a basic marketing mix for an online company selling branded sportswear.

    1 Mark :- Mention the Marketing Mix- the 4 P's

    1Mark for Each of the 4 P's Mentioned with a link to Scenario, i.e applying P.E.A

    Point :- Product (one of the p's)
    Explain :- what does you mean by Product.
    Apply:- Apply that point of Product to the Scenario.

    You can obivously construct explain and Apply in to one reasoable sentance, in the shorter form questions
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,427 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    I can do that! Well, with a bit of practice. I think I will be printing your previous post off for myself and stick it somewhere visible to remind myself.

    Just for example, the question I did yesterday was on consumer purchasing.

    Explain the term buyer behaviour and the various stages household consumers go through when making a purchase. - There is no scenario or anything.

    I managed to write 3 lines on buyer behaviour, one line of explanation, one line of the difference between consumer and organisations and one line which was the start of a waffle. But on the various stages, I mention them, created a fifth one for no reason, and write 1 line each on the various stages.

    Would that be enough for a 13 mark question? (Depending of course on the answers given) Or would you be expected to put examples in it to fill up the marks?

    Sorry, I know this is quite a direct question and I should really just send it to my tutor, but you seem to be having quite a clear idea of what to fill in!
  • slackda
    slackda Registered Posts: 456 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    Erm...can i come back to you on this one.....

    what was the questions total marks avaible?

    I'll dig out my other notes on E1 Question techinique showing how to split a larger question out into workable answers.
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,427 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    I can wait, I'm already really happy you don't mind looking into it! So I'm not going to complain about having to look into it and digging up the notes, which is more than I meant to ask for already!

    Total marks on the question was 25 marks. 12 were for explaining some other bits (I can't remember what it was, but there was no scenario at all) and 13 on buyer behaviour and the various stages.

    My books comment was that it was a textbook question and needed the text almost copied from the chapter and you should be able to achieve high marks for it easily. Which actually didn't help me, as I don't know in how much detail it would be needed.
  • slackda
    slackda Registered Posts: 456 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    ok can't see to find my notes yet, will have another dig about this evening.

    From reading the above (13 Marks) i would say you would looking at at least 5 decent examples of the stages of buyer behaviour, following the P.E.A method, if there is no scenario in the apply stage, apply to a real world made up example, this shows the examniner that you are able to apply the knowledge and understanding outside of an exam, on a gues each of those points could be worth 2-3 marks with another 2 marks for a definition on buyer behaviour.

    Hope that helps you:D
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,427 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    Thanks! That does help!

    You don't have to dig around for me, the above is already very helpful and I'm sure you got better things to do then to go through old notes!
  • slackda
    slackda Registered Posts: 456 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    its no worries i need to get them out to refresh me for E2 :(
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    I've just finished the IT section and ahhhhh, there's so much to learn!!! I think this exam is really going to be hit and miss.
  • slackda
    slackda Registered Posts: 456 Dedicated contributor ๐Ÿฆ‰
    just to note i haven't forgotten to get the revision notes. i just can't find them atm....grrr
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,427 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    just to note i haven't forgotten to get the revision notes. i just can't find them atm....grrr
    Aww, thank you Slackda, but seriously, if you are just looking for them for me, please don't bother!
  • richiebkerry
    richiebkerry Registered Posts: 45 Regular contributor โญ
    I'm studying E1 and F1 but am finding that I'm spending more time on F1. My tutor seems to play down the whole paper and refers back to common sense in most cases. Has anybody got an idea of what might come up on the paper?
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