ATT... Is it possible

Jo Clark
Jo Clark Registered Posts: 2,470 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
to study ATT if you don't work in practice or have day to day dealings with tax?

Any views/thoughts appreciated.

Thanks.


JC :o
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  • villapb
    villapb Registered Posts: 357
    It is possible but att require that you have two years relevant experience for full membership, i think im rady for ethics exam. I spent all day trying to pay the £120 fee to reg as a student to start the ball running................it still not gone through.........aat take your money quicker then att lol...........ethics and law before xmas , personal tax may 2013.......then business tax nov 2013, then retire....................
  • Jo Clark
    Jo Clark Registered Posts: 2,470 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
    Thanks villapb

    Have you studied for ethics before registering as a student? Do you not need to be registered for 6 months before you can sit any exams?

    So, in theory I could study ATT and sit the exams but would not be able to apply for membership without the relevant experience? Do you know if they offer associate/affiliate membership like AAT for those students who do not have the relevant experience?

    Good luck with your studies, sounds like you have it all planned out.

    By the way, how did you study for the ATT ethics paper and will be studying for future papers? Face to Face, distance learning etc. Any particular books you would recommend?

    Thanks again.


    JC
    ~ An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest ~
    Benjamin Franklin
  • BeccaLouJ9
    BeccaLouJ9 Registered Posts: 875 Epic contributor 🐘
    You have to be registered as a student for 6 months to take the written exams but I think the e-assessments it's 21 days or something along those lines.

    I have emailed you back Jo

    B x
  • villapb
    villapb Registered Posts: 357
    Spoke to att yesterday and they said that my student reg should take 7 days from yesterday and then wait about 10 days after to book ethics exam, i was planning to take ethics in Nov and law in Dec this year. Also Oct 31 is the deadline to take the May exams.........hence why i waited now to pay the £120. The card comes in the post from att so will wait and just keep studying.............
  • villapb
    villapb Registered Posts: 357
    Jo i am using distance learning with Tolley, i have found them to be very good, they have a mock exam too, the boss said have go on Friday at the mock just for a laugh so i did, they where all watching as i did it and i got 41 lol with the pressure...........added on.
    Jo once you pay the £120 it cover you for 3 years not sure what happens then if no experience but speak to att.........the 3 years is good gives you a chance to do maybe returns etc as well as your day job.
  • villapb
    villapb Registered Posts: 357
    ps Jo i working on audits at the moment to get all round experience and then help out with tax stuff..........my boss is fca and cta and my sponsor nudge nudge..........
  • villapb
    villapb Registered Posts: 357
    Sorry jo i keep getting other ideas if you want some good tax knowledge i bought the acca p6 advanced tax book off ebay dont worry about the dates if older version and found it really good its cover everything ..........
  • Jo Clark
    Jo Clark Registered Posts: 2,470 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
    Thanks :D
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    Benjamin Franklin
  • reader
    reader Registered Posts: 1,029 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
    Jo Clark wrote: »
    to study ATT if you don't work in practice or have day to day dealings with tax?

    Any views/thoughts appreciated.

    Thanks.


    JC :o

    Hi Jo

    Fees are £245/exam with Tolley Tax Training (which my employer pays for). Therefore for 3 exams the fees come to £735 (however you will only need to do 2 exams if you have already done AAT Business Tax). The £245 only covers course materials, discussion forum and online lectures (i.e. distance learning).

    In addition you'll have to buy 7 humongous legislation books which cost £75 in total.

    Also you'll have to buy the law and ethics materials which costs £65 each and an additional law book from the ATT website which costs £45.

    Finally, it costs £120 to register as a student, exam fees are £110/exam and e-assessment fees are £65/exam.

    Consequently, for the entire course (entirely distance learning) your total spend should be around:
    £735 (to Tolley for three written exams) + £75 (to Tolley for the legislation) + £65 (to Tolley for the law materials) + £45 (to ATT for the law manual) + £65 (to Tolley for the ethics materials) + £120 (to ATT as a registration fee) + £330 (to ATT for 3 exam entry fees) + £130 (to ATT for 2 e-assessment exam entry fees) = £1,565 for the entire qualification via distance learning.

    I work in practice so I do have day to day dealings with corporation tax however I'm currently studying for personal tax and I do not have any day to day dealings with this. Therefore I would argue it is possible to study for the qualification without having any day to day dealings with tax. If you are looking to get into practice then this will be a useful qualification to do.

    I hope this helps.
  • Jo Clark
    Jo Clark Registered Posts: 2,470 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
    Thanks for the information :)
    ~ An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest ~
    Benjamin Franklin
  • Jo Clark
    Jo Clark Registered Posts: 2,470 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
    reader wrote: »
    Hi Jo

    Fees are £245/exam with Tolley Tax Training (which my employer pays for). Therefore for 3 exams the fees come to £735 (however you will only need to do 2 exams if you have already done AAT Business Tax). The £245 only covers course materials, discussion forum and online lectures (i.e. distance learning).

    In addition you'll have to buy 7 humongous legislation books which cost £75 in total.

    Also you'll have to buy the law and ethics materials which costs £65 each and an additional law book from the ATT website which costs £45.

    Finally, it costs £120 to register as a student, exam fees are £110/exam and e-assessment fees are £65/exam.

    Consequently, for the entire course (entirely distance learning) your total spend should be around:
    £735 (to Tolley for three written exams) + £75 (to Tolley for the legislation) + £65 (to Tolley for the law materials) + £45 (to ATT for the law manual) + £65 (to Tolley for the ethics materials) + £120 (to ATT as a registration fee) + £330 (to ATT for 3 exam entry fees) + £130 (to ATT for 2 e-assessment exam entry fees) = £1,565 for the entire qualification via distance learning.

    I work in practice so I do have day to day dealings with corporation tax however I'm currently studying for personal tax and I do not have any day to day dealings with this. Therefore I would argue it is possible to study for the qualification without having any day to day dealings with tax. If you are looking to get into practice then this will be a useful qualification to do.

    I hope this helps.

    Are the online lectures live or pre recorded so you can watch when convenient and more than once if necessary?
    ~ An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest ~
    Benjamin Franklin
  • reader
    reader Registered Posts: 1,029 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
    Jo Clark wrote: »
    Are the online lectures live or pre recorded so you can watch when convenient and more than once if necessary?

    Pre recorded (and therefore you can watch when it's convenient and over and over again); the lectures are essentially a power point presentation with a narrator.
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