FRA DEC 04 EXAM

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I managed to record most of my answers which I've listed below if people want to cross check with their own.<BR>Having looked through the various messages posted, there seem to be a few common points surfacing. The vat on admin expenses should have been netted (I think) and the vat posted to the Vat In account (reducing the amount owed to Customs & Excise). The knock on effect being it reduces the Vat showing as a Liability in the BS. It also accounts for why people have a 50p showing on their figures as they would have debited Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£49 too much for Admin Exps in the P & L. This means Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£49 less profit and a resultant odd number that would have meant a net profit of Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£103,201 brought down to the Appropriation account (shared equally you get a 50p ending).<BR>Stock should have remained at 1940 (SSAP 9)Stocks refers (lower of cost and net realisable value). <BR>People shouldn't worry if their various balances didn't agree, especially if they opened up a suspense account and showed their workings as they give credit for initiative and good accounting practice. <BR>Anyway here are my answers:<BR><BR>1.1 Capital 17,610.<BR>1.2 Sales 49,400.<BR>1.3 Purchases 11,120.<BR>1.4 Materials 13,720.<BR>1.5 Deprec (P & L Yearly Exp 3,350) (Revised Accum Deprec 8,950).<BR>1.6 Travel Exps 2,515.<BR>1.7 Rent 2,500.<BR>1.8 Stock 1,940 (SSAP 9)<BR>1.9 TB Balancing Figure 80,160.<BR>1.10 Date of Purchase, Cost, Serial No, Expected Life, Residual Value, Method of Depreciation.<BR>(i) Shows history of Acquisitions/Disposals.<BR>(ii) Shows information regarding depreciation.<BR>(iii) Info re Manufacturers for Customs & Excise (Vat) & Insurance purposes.<BR>2.1 Dr Accountancy Fees 1900/Cr Accruals 1900.<BR> Dr Bad debts 795/Cr Prov for Doubtful Debts 795.<BR> Dr Admin Exps 280 & Dr Vat Input 49/Cr Selling Exps 329.<BR> Dr Creditors 940/Cr Purchases 800 & Cr Vat Output 140.<BR>2.2 ETB Adjustment Column Bals 3,964.<BR> Net Profit 103,250.<BR> P & L Totals 520,380.<BR> BS Totals 264,316.<BR>2.4 Profit Share 51,625 each.<BR> Current a/c bals c/d (Henry 55,225) (James 55,825).<BR>2.5 BS Totals 211,050.<BR>2.6 Goodwill 110,000 each.<BR> Goodwill Debits (Harry 88,000, James 88,000, Charles 44,000)<BR> Cap A/c bals c/d (Harry 72,000, James 72,000, Charles 56,000).

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  • System
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    yeah how the hell did you manage to record your answers!!!
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    I think all my answer where the same..at least they look similar to what i got!!<BR><BR>The first thing that should have been taught was that<BR><BR>CAPITAL = TOTAL ASSETS - TOTAL LIABILITIES<BR><BR>It was for me and the same at A'level!<BR><BR>I still can't imagne that i did a full A'level and gained a 'B' in one year but forgot about the RETURNS IN account on the second part!!! owell!<BR><BR>At least its all balanced!<BR><BR>regards<BR><BR>Keiron<BR>
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    ditto
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    also with the last question I put confidentiality in there somewhere<BR><BR>one thing i did struggle was with...dont laugh..... the space to write up the partners current accounts...i do big girlie writing and found i had to cram everything into a silly space..hope the examiners can read it ok!<BR><BR>
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    I've got to admit that once I put the Capital figure from Q1 into the TB and it balanced, it was a deep sigh of relief. No having to check for a difference or opening a suspense account.<BR>After that it all went ok. <BR><BR>As someone else has already pointed out, having to wait for results until February seems ages away. By then we'll be into the costing side which I'm not looking forward to at all.<BR><BR>Mind you, compared to next year when we'll have five exams and a project to complete, we shouldn't complain!!<BR><BR>Nice talking to you............... and the best of luck for February.<BR><BR>David
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    with the fixed asset register I listed all the main things i could think of - cost, accumalated depreciation, NBV, date of purchase...erm what else...location, cant remember really but i think i did ok.<BR><BR>True the first question threw me but i took a deep breath and thought about logically. I got the answer and it all balanced ok so i didnt struggle with the TB or anything else<BR><BR>
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    Let's face it, that first question must have been the worst start to an exam in terms of giving you confidence. Luckily my tutor had run this type of question by us a week or so before.<BR>Quite a lot seem to have deducted the liabilities from the assets but forgot to add on the brought forward cash and bank balances.<BR>The thing that I noticed on previous past papers was that one question isn't necessarily independant of another. If you get one wrong it has repercussions further down the line.<BR>You really want the first question to be one that you can answer comfortably to settle the nerves!<BR>That last question was also tricky. I said that I couldn't divulge the amount because of confidentiality. I'm sure that I should have mentioned something to do with the Data Protection Act.<BR>How did you get on with the Fixed Asset Register question. That was my trickiest.
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    some of your answers sound familiar but some dont.....
  • System
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    Photographic memory.
  • System
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    how the hell did you manage to record your answers?
  • System
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    I logged off before receiving your reply, but agree with you on the Capital issue.<BR><BR>That returns in one is a bit of a sod I agree. But in the heat of the exam, these things happen.<BR><BR>I've been looking through all your threads and agree with most of your observations.<BR><BR>Best of luck to you too in Feb.<BR><BR>David
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    To David<BR><BR>That is some memory, I agree with your balance on the TB on question 1.<BR><BR>Plus the rent figure of Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£2500, but in one way it doesn't make much sense as the rental per quarter was Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£650, which is Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£2600 per year, I know they prepaid but surely they would have been charged the same amount. <BR><BR>Probably me having a thick moment.<BR><BR>I also didn't put the purchase returns in again, I just compensated for the error, which throws the rest out.<BR><BR>I didn't mention confidentiallity in the last question, should have done but mentioned privacy and ethics.<BR><BR>Cheers <BR>anne
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    i presumed with the rent account that it went up ( as rent and other bills sometimes do) so I didnt stress too much about how much they were paying.....<BR><BR>
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    I had this trouble in a past exam i was doing!<BR><BR>I was thinking to much about the question and not enough on answering it!!<BR><BR>It did say that the rent for the Quarter was Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£650 but it also said that all rent paid during the year was included in the Admin expenses.<BR><BR>IF you look at the rent in the pepayment from last year as less than the prepayment carried forward, so the rent during the year will have increased and would not have stayed even...<BR><BR>so you had not to think about it too much...like i did in the practise exams!!<BR><BR>regards<BR><BR>Keiron
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    I think that with these types of questions they are aimed to confuse you slightly under exam conditions as they give you information which sometimes seems useless but more often than not you (or is it only me!) presume that all figures and information given MUST be used, which sometimes isnt the case.<BR><BR>
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    To Keiron<BR><BR>Brilliant and yep i think you are right, if the company had a rent increase during the year, then the following works<BR><BR>1st quarter rent Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£550<BR>2nd,3rd, and 4th quarters at Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£650<BR>equal a grand total of rent Γƒβ€šΓ‚Β£2,500<BR><BR>I wasn't worrying, it was just bugging me where the figure came from.<BR><BR>So cheers and thank you<BR><BR>Anne
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    So by not getting a 50p at the end (after dividing the net profit) this should be correct?!?<BR><BR>Cheers
  • System
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    To Vikki,<BR><BR>Yes that's right. You shouldn't have a 50p on the end. I spoke to my tutor about this today and she said that AAT exams never have pence on the end of answers.<BR><BR>Mind you, there's always a first time!!<BR><BR>David
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