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  • Marga
    Marga Registered Posts: 981 Epic contributor 🐘
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    task 2.1 variances
    583 CANT REMEMBER IT WAS FAV OR ADV
    428.75 A
    900 F
    250 A
    2000 A
    275 VOLUME RATIO

    some of those if i remember correctly are matching those that i did def the volume ratio was £275 (F) on mine
  • Marga
    Marga Registered Posts: 981 Epic contributor 🐘
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    Primble wrote: »
    ok i'm being good now and not looking anymore so i dont wind myself up. nothing i can do now. going to get hubby from work instead

    good luck with BTC and DFS ....

    Will get ready now to get myself on a DFS mood


    might be here later
  • jewels.p
    jewels.p Registered Posts: 1,774 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    Not getting to sit BTC tomorrow either as the College is shut again!

    All these months of studying wasted for another six months: :mad:
  • pirate
    pirate Registered Posts: 469 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    I got 14400 kg for the production in January after wastage
    so then the materails were 14400 * £1.7 for the cost

    machine hours
    Jan - 87.5 feb = 120 and March 155 so not over the 160 hours max

    labour hours Jan = 1220, feb = 1200, March = 1550 of which 350 hours were paid at overtime. I assumed that regardless of production they had to work the 1200 hours in total.

    what was question 1.2? I know that part of it was to do a report to the MD regarding absorption costing was the rest about how much each thing cost
    In which case I sort of recall materials being £3
    energy variable at .05p and fixed at £50000, others production variable @ .10p and fixed at 400,000
    for the Total Production cost for the 1m units I think I got 3.85
    and for the total production cost for the 1.2 m units I think it was 3.73 or 3.53 something odd

    I cannot remember what the questions were at all of the second section
    was it
    2.1 Calculate loads of variances
    2.1 b explain what they all mean and give one example of what causes them
    2.1 c Do a cost card for 1000 units think it was approx £370cant remember

    2.2 I think this was to calculate various ratios and prices but I cant remember any except RONA, Net profit, Gross Profit and the two stock turnovers. didnt calcualte the stock things just wrote formulas down and the values.
    Think I got about 38% for gross Profit and aprrox 3% for net profit

    what else was there price per unit was that there

    2.3
    started to do the new budget got something like 50,600,000 for the total costs made up of 9100000 in labour (13mX.70p) materials 39000000 and overheads at 2.5 million. Sales were £8,060,000 I think
    Didnt calculate the new ratios ie the new ROCN and NEt Profit margin.
    did it ask for anything else on the last question

    ooooooooo
  • umerali2003
    umerali2003 Registered Posts: 400 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    i am not worried about numbers this time around i have shown proper workings this time thats what they want because last time i got 4 exc in my MAC exam but on last question i thrown in just the numbers and the review i got from aat was to because of lack of workings we dont give credit for the numbers only . if the answer is correct without working we will give credit but if answer is wrong without working most likely will get a zero
  • Marga
    Marga Registered Posts: 981 Epic contributor 🐘
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    jewels.p wrote: »
    Not getting to sit BTC tomorrow either as the College is shut again!

    All these months of studying wasted for another six months: :mad:

    it is so so unfair you should be able to re sit it in Jan
  • Marga
    Marga Registered Posts: 981 Epic contributor 🐘
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    pirate wrote: »
    I got 14400 kg for the production in January after wastage
    so then the materails were 14400 * £1.7 for the cost

    machine hours
    Jan - 87.5 feb = 120 and March 155 so not over the 160 hours max

    labour hours Jan = 1220, feb = 1200, March = 1550 of which 350 hours were paid at overtime. I assumed that regardless of production they had to work the 1200 hours in total.

    what was question 1.2? I know that part of it was to do a report to the MD regarding absorption costing was the rest about how much each thing cost
    In which case I sort of recall materials being £3
    energy variable at .05p and fixed at £50000, others production variable @ .10p and fixed at 400,000
    for the Total Production cost for the 1m units I think I got 3.85
    and for the total production cost for the 1.2 m units I think it was 3.73 or 3.53 something odd

    I cannot remember what the questions were at all of the second section
    was it
    2.1 Calculate loads of variances
    2.1 b explain what they all mean and give one example of what causes them
    2.1 c Do a cost card for 1000 units think it was approx £370cant remember

    2.2 I think this was to calculate various ratios and prices but I cant remember any except RONA, Net profit, Gross Profit and the two stock turnovers. didnt calcualte the stock things just wrote formulas down and the values.
    Think I got about 38% for gross Profit and aprrox 3% for net profit

    what else was there price per unit was that there

    2.3
    started to do the new budget got something like 50,600,000 for the total costs made up of 9100000 in labour (13mX.70p) materials 39000000 and overheads at 2.5 million. Sales were £8,060,000 I think
    Didnt calculate the new ratios ie the new ROCN and NEt Profit margin.
    did it ask for anything else on the last question

    ooooooooo

    That sounds so much like my exam figures!!!!:)
  • pirate
    pirate Registered Posts: 469 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    jewels.p wrote: »
    Not getting to sit BTC tomorrow either as the College is shut again!

    All these months of studying wasted for another six months: :mad:


    Why is the college shut?
    How awful its really unfair I think its really not on, I did mine in Dec just in case so I have another chance thats not at all fair. What do the AAT say about that.

    Are they doing a paper based for MAC? On the revision course there were people who were doing a paper based exam which really confused me as I thought under the new standard MAC was effectively replaced by two exams.

    We are due snow here on wednesday so I dont kow what happens if you cant get to the exam due to weather conditions.
  • NO BUSINESS CASE
    NO BUSINESS CASE Registered Posts: 85 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Hated the budget question as seemed straightforward but I kept looking at it afterwards and couldnt get my head around it in its entirety and just got more confused!!

    The machines made 120 Good KGs from 160 Hrs and that totalled 19200 KGs that could be produced in any month which led me down the road to a limiting factor equation....God knows what I ended up with after that!!! ha ha

    2.3 new ratios went for NPM 18.93% £1.6mil/£8,45mil x100 RONA £1.6mil/£5mil = 32%
  • martin2345uk
    martin2345uk Registered Posts: 4 New contributor 🐸
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    Help! Stressed now, I knew I had done something wrong in the first question, when my Machine hours for Jan and March came out as recurring decimals, something.6666666666 :-(

    Thing is I did it like this:

    Demand, less opening stock, add closing stock, then add wastage = total kg figure. Divide that by 120 to get machine hours. SO how on January did i get something like 166.6666666 hours, and march I got 200-and-something.66666666! Clearly I have f***ed up, but can't see where..?! Anyone any idea? Anyone remember the numbers used in the question..?

    I hope that doesn't fail me :(
  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    task 2.1 variances
    583 CANT REMEMBER IT WAS FAV OR ADV
    428.75 A
    900 F
    250 A
    2000 A
    275 VOLUME RATIO

    omg i got the same answers hopefully this is a good sign.
  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    How did people work on the machine hours - i dont know if this was right but the last month i capped as there was only so many machine hours avaliable ?

    Also the last question i think i fumbled the last ratios.

    Overall i think this paper was better for me and didnt sob after (which was a good sign) and had a go at everything.
  • martin2345uk
    martin2345uk Registered Posts: 4 New contributor 🐸
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    Help! Stressed now, I knew I had done something wrong in the first question, when my Machine hours for Jan and March came out as recurring decimals, something.6666666666

    Thing is I did it like this:

    Demand, less opening stock, add closing stock, then add wastage = total kg figure. Divide that by 120 to get machine hours. SO how on January did i get something like 166.6666666 hours, and march I got 200-and-something.66666666! Clearly I have f***ed up, but can't see where..?! Anyone any idea? Anyone remember the numbers used in the question..?

    I hope that doesn't fail me

    EDIT I remember that my gross production for March came out at 24,800kg!!! Could it be that I added opening stock and deducted closing stock by mistake? Does that make 24,800kg? I'm sad! :(
  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    Plus i would like to add a big thankyou to the college for deciding to have work men in the room oppersite banging hammering shouting and drilling also the several times people knocked on the door (twice playing knocky 9 door)
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor 🐘
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    i wasnt sure wether to use 120 or 160. think i used 120. oops
  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    Primble wrote: »
    i wasnt sure wether to use 120 or 160. think i used 120. oops

    i used 120 i think for machine hours - its all blurring now - maybe the pint afterwards caused that
  • pirate
    pirate Registered Posts: 469 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    I had something like 10500 for Jan 14400 Kg for feb and 18600 for March and it said it gets 120 good kg per hour I think
    so I divided 10500/120 14400/120 and 138000/120 to get the machine hours required

    So I had 87.5 machine hours for jan, 120 for Feb and 155 for march. I did highlight the 160 hours but as mine all seemed to work out quite well it seemed fine

    So as it then takes 10 men to man the machines a month so I multipled each machine hours by 10 to get the total labour hours required. Each man works 120 hours so there are 1200 labour hours availabalbe (120 X10)which covers us for Jan and Feb, and thatswhat they work whatever the production. so labour budget was 1200 hours for Jan and feb at a cost of 1200 hours X £10 = £12000 for each month. In march we go over the 1200 hours available so are into overtime which is paid at time and a half so £15 per hour so in march we have an additional 350 hours to work so an additional £5250

    I am amazed I can remember this question bizarrely as I cant remember anything else

    It was so easy I did totally question myself so probably got it totally wrong

    lol
    ah well DFS on wednesday
  • Marga
    Marga Registered Posts: 981 Epic contributor 🐘
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    pirate wrote: »
    I had something like 10500 for Jan 14400 Kg for feb and 18600 for March and it said it gets 120 good kg per hour I think
    so I divided 10500/120 14400/120 and 138000/120 to get the machine hours required

    So I had 87.5 machine hours for jan, 120 for Feb and 155 for march. I did highlight the 160 hours but as mine all seemed to work out quite well it seemed fine

    So as it then takes 10 men to man the machines a month so I multipled each machine hours by 10 to get the total labour hours required. Each man works 120 hours so there are 1200 labour hours availabalbe (120 X10)which covers us for Jan and Feb, and thatswhat they work whatever the production. so labour budget was 1200 hours for Jan and feb at a cost of 1200 hours X £10 = £12000 for each month. In march we go over the 1200 hours available so are into overtime which is paid at time and a half so £15 per hour so in march we have an additional 350 hours to work so an additional £5250

    I am amazed I can remember this question bizarrely as I cant remember anything else

    It was so easy I did totally question myself so probably got it totally wrong

    lol
    ah well DFS on wednesday

    same here :)

    I think they did it to check if we could realise that there was a GOOD production and bad loss

    also the machine hours and labour hours machine hours was a max of 160 which means that could be used if necessary but no needed in my figures
    and labour i did the same which in march gave me overtime

    variances oh well i remember by more or less the numbers given so i hope i can get them right but i cant remember the toffee kg actual and the cost

    Units
    80000
    85000

    Milk Chocolate--- 5720 Kg
    £8,580.00
    5720 Kg
    £8,580.00
    Tofee --- 4680 Kg
    £2,340.00
    ?
    ?
    Direct Labour--- 400 hours
    £4,000.00
    450 hours
    £3,600.00
    fixed overheads
    £4,400.00
    £6,400.00
    Total Cost
    £19,320.00
    £18,580.00


    DFS on Wed too good luck!
  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    Marga wrote: »
    same here

    I think they did it to check if we could realise that there was a GOOD production and bad loss

    also the machine hours and labour hours machine hours was a max of 160 which means that could be used if necessary but no needed in my figures
    and labour i did the same which in march gave me overtime

    variances oh well i remember by more or less the numbers given so i hope i can get them right but i cant remember the toffee kg actual and the cost

    Units
    80000
    85000

    Milk Chocolate--- 5720 Kg
    £8,580.00
    5720 Kg
    £8,580.00
    Tofee --- 4680 Kg
    £2,340.00
    ?
    ?
    Direct Labour--- 400 hours
    £4,000.00
    450 hours
    £3,600.00
    fixed overheads
    £4,400.00
    £6,400.00
    Total Cost
    £19,320.00
    £18,580.00


    DFS on Wed too good luck!

    how the heck can you remember all that its all a blur now and really starting to doubt myself am off i tried extreamly hard had a go at everything and showed my workings still pleased pass or fail :)
  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    i see the paper is now avaliable on-line

    https://www.aat.org.uk/past_papers/
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