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  • System
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    CJC wrote:
    there are some aspects of reigion that are positive, intelligent and harmless - but there's also many that posses none of these qualities. What consenting adults wish to do in provate is one thing but religious beleif should form no part of public policy.

    Nice one Chris, I just wondered what others thought, just in response to your reply, I think that the good parts of religion, do not generally need to be tied into faith to be taught, if I am right in assuming you are talking of the moral obligations,eg, the ten commadments (which again I feel are somewhat unrealistic)But I agree with what you are saying on the whole.
    And my problem doesnt come with faith, just from my views on organised religions, trying to force it upon others, and generally picking out the vulnerable to bulk up the pew numbers.

    Paul.
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    To me, religion is a deeply personal thing.

    When I talk about it (which isn't often), people are surprised by what I have to say.

    I don't feel the need to 'spread my word' and I find it offensive when others try to spread theirs in such angry and threatening ways (not you guys!).

    How long will it be, I wonder, before we are not able to discuss it like this, on a forum?





  • System
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    I know what you mean, just re reading my comments that could come across wrong. I mean times when a church 100 yrds from your house starts posting flyers about 'lifes evils' (basically pleasure) to try and get you to go, I find it intrusive, you see the church every day, if you want to go you can go!
  • System
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    While I'm not religious in any way, I cannot help linking peoples loss of faith with the general loss of respect that people have for each other now. I don't think it's far fetched to say that the decline in modern faith is tied into the decline in modern moral values. If you don't fear God, then who do you fear?

    Religion may not have all the answers and it doesn't always get it right, but you can't deny that it does bond and unite people together in ways that few other things can. It provides comfort and reassurance to millions of people worldwide and it's NOT singlehandedly responsible for all the evils of the world today - fanatical individuals and governments, both religious or non-religious - are.

    Robert

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    blobbyh wrote:
    fanatical individuals and governments, both religious or non-religious - are.

    A few examples of the non religious ones Rob?
  • System
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    Ignoring the subtle hint of derision there Paul, how about arguably the two biggest threats to world peace today - George Bush and Tony Blair? Now I don't believe for a second that these two actually believe in God but that doesn't mean they don't feel "divine".

    People may kill in the name of their religion but that doesn't necessarily mean that particular faith is evil and directly to blame. No group - and let's not forget that religions are mostly peaceful and advocate tolerance not murder - can prevent the fanatics within it killing in its name anymore than we are to blame for 'white' people murdering non-whites in 'our' name.

    Robert

  • System
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    WHAT - you dont believe that George Bush is religious??
  • System
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    And Blair is a practicing Roman Catholic. Robert, did you mean to say "Now I don't doubt for a second that these two actually believe in God"?

    In my opinion, for the most part the problem is not cause by theological debate but by the intervention of a colonial power. It's not the religion; it's the people using religion as an 'us' and 'them' marker.

    No, I'm not sure where I stand. I'm still sitting on the fence with regards to religion. I'm pretty sure which side I'll come down on, just as sure as I can find a place to land.
  • System
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    I hate to break into a debate, but this is probably more important at this moment in time.

    The Chief Assessor's reports and answers for the Technician level exams will hopefully be on later today, but there may be a slight delay. I was planning to have them up first thing this morning, but it may be later on instead.
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    Paul22 wrote:
    ...lack of understanding in younger generations, even to this day regarding homosexuality. I believe this is something that will never change until religion is taken out of the curriculum

    My opinion on homosexuality has not been affected by any religious classes I attended.



  • System
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    I meant what I wrote...

    You don't think for a minute that politicians who send our own men off to die and/or order the (sometimes unjustified) mass destruction of thousands of innocent bystanders through collateral damage, could be maybe lying just a tad about their religious callings? You don't think that maybe it could just be a vote grabber to say you worship God even though secretly you might not? There are still millions of votes available from the religious people in our nations.

    I don't support or follow religion anymore - bloody Hell, if anything I was the antichrist in my younger and far wilder days! - but I certainly don't support it's outright dissolution either. People - especially the younger PlayStation/EastEnders generation - rarely go to church anymore. We live in an increasingly violent society that we all complain about. Is it stretching the point to say the two might be related? Until a better way way can be found to reunite society, I vote religion stays.

    I always find it ironic that a discussion about religious intolerance eventually envelopes all other intolerances, religious or otherwise.

    Robert
  • System
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    What is your view just out of interest, and what is it based on?
  • System
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    Paul22 wrote:
    What is your view just out of interest, and what is it based on?

    One of my best friends was gay. I was never taught anything about homosexuality at school.

  • System
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    blobbyh wrote:
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    You don't think for a minute that politicians who send our own men off to die and/or order the (sometimes unjustified) mass destruction of thousands of innocent bystanders through collateral damage, could be maybe lying just a tad about their religious callings?

    This is incredible, what a load of rubbish!! This is the same for me as the 'football hooligans are not football fans' argument, the truth is THEY ARE but people do not want to admit it for some reason!!!! It is not the only reason for recent events, bt would Bush be there if it wasnt for his support in the FANATIC christian community within the USA.
  • System
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    No we werent, only the RELIGIOUS teachings that say it is wrong. Never any realistic life skills to deal with such people.
  • System
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    Paul22 wrote:
    What is your view just out of interest, and what is it based on?

    My view is above. If I had nothing to base my opinions on, I wouldn't offer them. I'm 39, have done both bad and good things in my life and often draw upon the relevant personal experiences when I choose to contribute.

    Robert

    Edit; we're not going to agree here Paul and I certainly don't follow your anti-religious/monarchy/everything incoherent rants. Until you can offer something different and rational, let's leave it okay?
  • System
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    Paul22 wrote:
    No we werent, only the RELIGIOUS teachings that say it is wrong. Never any realistic life skills to deal with such people.

    I didn't need to be taught how to deal with 'such people'.

    I choose my friends because I enjoy their company.

    Having to create a course to cover the topic, seems a little bizarre.
  • System
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    Thats not my point, I am not talking about reasonable people such as us, Im talking about people who dont experience some of these issues and arent prepared with how to deal with them when they are faced with them.

    Blob, There is no need for that, I was looking at this as a debate amongst a group if intelligent people, so no need for the 'incoherent' comment, and I am not 'anti everything' as you seem to have decided.

    But your right, I really think it should be left now.
  • System
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    So, what does everyone think about the Assessors reports being late because Malcolm wanted to make another cup of tea?

    :wink:
  • System
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    Okay, that might have been a touch strong Paul, but we all know that politicians lie about almost everything.

    But you do sometimes come across as quite intolerant Paul whether you mean to or not. Living in Birmingham - which is quite a cosmopolitan city believe it or not! - you must meet people of all religions and creeds?

    But finally, just to expand/refine the point I made earlier, one thing you can always guarantee when discussing religious intolerance is the intolerance people show towards religion. There's the irony.

    Robert
  • System
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    And finally from me too.

    Why do people post comments that will possibly provoke angry responses, and then get angry when they do?

    Now that is irony.

  • System
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    Calm down everyone, we're supposed to be buddies on this thread and having fun.

    When I'm dunking my custard creams into my additional cup of tea, I like to have a bit of light reading!!
  • System
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    Malcolm wrote:
    When I'm dunking my custard creams into my additional cup of tea, I like to have a bit of light reading!!

    And we'd like to be reading the Assessors reports!

    :roll:
  • System
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    blobbyh wrote:
    But you do sometimes come across as quite intolerant Paul whether you mean to or not.

    It is difficult I think to put across your point in black and white, and also difficult to judge someone by what they write. I do not believe I am intolerant, I am in fact pretty chilled out. I dont post things to get an angry response, I just like to have a healthy debate once in a while. Sorry if I have angered anyone, I will know not to contribute in this way again.

    Paul.
  • System
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    Walked into that didn't I?
  • System
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    Yep!

    You'll be telling us next that you are working and dunking - another multi-tasking male?
  • System
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    I have my moments, but it's more like drinking and dunking.
  • System
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    Sounds messy.

    :cry:
  • System
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    And at the same time, the technician reports and answers are now live.

    Three tasks at once; miracles do happen!
  • System
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    Are you going to announce their arrival on the Technician Forum?


    Is that a fanfare I hear...?

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