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A-VicA-Vic Expertise GuaranteedRegistered Posts: 6,970
Yep as above :)

Ok i have two exams and a project to go before qualified also 5 years practise experience but am looking towards expanding my current role (more specialised) putting into practise what ive learnt doing the AAT what roles would be suited or could i go for?

Cheers in advance


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  • sammyd22sammyd22 Well-Known Registered Posts: 207
    Have you considered moving into the industry?

    You may like it!
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    Well ive had two interviews in 3 years one was NHS and the other was industry

    NHS was down to last two and they gave inhouse
    Industry job stated i didnt have enough experience in industry

    Both purcher ledger control jobs
  • sammyd22sammyd22 Well-Known Registered Posts: 207
    A-Vic wrote: »
    Well ive had two interviews in 3 years one was NHS and the other was industry

    NHS was down to last two and they gave inhouse
    Industry job stated i didnt have enough experience in industry

    Both purcher ledger control jobs

    I say forget AAT and Sell Avon! Be your own boss! lol
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    sammyd22 wrote: »
    I say forget AAT and Sell Avon! Be your own boss! lol

    lol madness

    Serously i did consider at one stage of going it alone but i do like the security of a wage and wonder what jobs i could apply for with my qualifactions and experience
  • sammyd22sammyd22 Well-Known Registered Posts: 207
    A-Vic wrote: »
    lol madness

    Serously i did consider at one stage of going it alone but i do like the security of a wage and wonder what jobs i could apply for with my qualifactions and experience

    from working in practice you would have gained great experience with regards to regulations etc, putting your dbl entry skills to good use. No doubt you would have gained great experience of tackling numerous scenarios.

    with the experience you have and the great foundation of knowledge AAT has given you i cant see why you wouldnt be considered for an Assistant Accountants role within the industry. You would be perfectlu qualified as far as i am concerned.

    I know what you mean about the security of a wage! I cant see myself ever going at it alone as im comfortable going to work and bringing home a guaranteed salary. I think if i can complete chartership it will be nice, not only to receive a nice salary but many companies give great perks. We have 3 qualified accountants and they all have company cars, BUPA and so on. But having said that if you can go alone and you have the clients, you could be living a very comfortable lifestyle indeed!
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    sammyd22 wrote: »
    from working in practice you would have gained great experience with regards to regulations etc, putting your dbl entry skills to good use. No doubt you would have gained great experience of tackling numerous scenarios.

    with the experience you have and the great foundation of knowledge AAT has given you i cant see why you wouldnt be considered for an Assistant Accountants role within the industry. You would be perfectlu qualified as far as i am concerned.

    I know what you mean about the security of a wage! I cant see myself ever going at it alone as im comfortable going to work and bringing home a guaranteed salary. I think if i can complete chartership it will be nice, not only to receive a nice salary but many companies give great perks. We have 3 qualified accountants and they all have company cars, BUPA and so on. But having said that if you can go alone and you have the clients, you could be living a very comfortable lifestyle indeed!

    yeah decetions decetions where to go what to aim for next
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    A-Vic wrote: »
    yeah decetions decetions where to go what to aim for next

    i know bloody spelling lessons (ha beat ya to it)
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    thanks tho sammy at least can look around and see whats avaliable in both sectors and know what jobs to look out for
  • sammyd22sammyd22 Well-Known Registered Posts: 207
    A-Vic wrote: »
    thanks tho sammy at least can look around and see whats avaliable in both sectors and know what jobs to look out for

    good luck
  • RinskeRinske Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,453
    I agree, going for an accounts assistant job makes more sense then anything specific on purchase ledger, sales ledger or income controller etc.

    Those are also the jobs that are in general a bit higher paid then the specific ledger jobs, give more diverse work (and you got that covered with working in practice) and when the jobs arise, it is probably easier to step up and get a promotion...
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    i received a call from the agency that sent me for the interview informing me when i hadnt got the job in industry and they said the same that i had plenty of diverse experience as working in practise gives you different clients with different needs however placement were after someone with a specialised background in their area.

    I do love my current job and can say in 5 years i dont think ive had 2 days the same, but like rinske says my progression in the firm in extremly limited as well as the salary improvements.
  • RinskeRinske Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,453
    Well, this is not helping you much, but I'm actually really happy, as I got a call yesterday for an interview for an accounts assistant job.

    I am "stuck" in a ledger job in industry, with no sight for any progression unless someone in my company leaves (which is not likely, although I know my supervisor isn't happy in his role) and I've been applying quite a lot lately for the accounts assistant jobs I found, but this is the first one where I am actually invited for the job interview. Although I am hope I get the job, even if I don't get it, I am just so happy I got an interview finally.
    The job is actually not much higher paid then my current job, but to be fair, I don't really mind not gaining much, but just getting out of this job would be so nice! The worst thing is, I can't wait to hand my notice once I got a new job, just to show them I can do a lot more!

    I just kept sending out my resume with covering letter on all the jobs I found and that's how I got this interview, but I am sure you are already doing that, so I don't really know what other advice might help you!

    Also, if you go for a purchase ledger job, it will be a lot of data entry (invoices) and some other stuff, but not really very much diverse, which gets boring really fast (at least that's my experience), sales ledger seems to be little to do with anything other then chasing customers and resolving queries, which for what I've seen from my colleague is really not something I want to do.

    I do like the income controller job, as there is a lot of different things involved in our company, but it would be another one of those jobs where it is really hard to progress from. I do the holiday cover and assisting when it is needed for the income controller in our company and it's a bit more diverse, but still not comparable to practice, so personally I think you would get bored with a job like that as well (I know I would).

    It's just my view though, it might be completely different at other companies, I only got experience with the company I work in now, all previous experience was in practice as a payroll consultant (that wasn't in the UK, so I can't really compare).
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    Got everything crossed for the interview let us know how you get on :)
  • RinskeRinske Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,453
    Thanks! It's on the 7th of April tho, so you might want to wait a bit with crossing everything! It gives me some time to prepare my strengths and weaknesses, and examples and such and dust off those interview skills!

    Have you got your CV all updated and sorted? It does sound a bit like you are in the same situation as I am. Has the agency given you any option to keep you in mind for other jobs? Or do you just need to apply again if something else comes up?
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    Kinda i did update it but have someone looking into it for me :)

    A few agencys have contacted over last 12 months but mainly for payroll positions but not for me, just maily gonna concentrate passing these exams then role on august cv and cover notes will be flying
  • RinskeRinske Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,453
    That is my plan too! Although I haven't got someone looking into my CV yet, I will when the time gets nearer.
  • sammyd22sammyd22 Well-Known Registered Posts: 207
    Rinske wrote: »
    Thanks! It's on the 7th of April tho, so you might want to wait a bit with crossing everything! It gives me some time to prepare my strengths and weaknesses, and examples and such and dust off those interview skills!

    Have you got your CV all updated and sorted? It does sound a bit like you are in the same situation as I am. Has the agency given you any option to keep you in mind for other jobs? Or do you just need to apply again if something else comes up?

    Good luck!
  • RinskeRinske Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,453
    Thanks!
  • AndypandyAndypandy Experienced Mentor Registered Posts: 526
    Best of luck to both of you. I'm in the same kind of situation, have an interview on Monday but don't even know if I really want the job:(
  • anniemanniem Experienced Mentor Pewsey, WiltshireRegistered Posts: 1,326
    I think we need a diary on here:

    Andypandy - Interview Monday 29th March
    Anniem - Interview Tuesday 30th March
    Rinske - Interview Thursday 7th April


    Anyone else got any dates of significance for our diary (not birthdays we already get those courtesy of the website!)
    FMAAT - AAT Licensed Member in Practice - Pewsey, Wiltshire
  • MargaMarga Experienced Mentor Registered Posts: 981
    anniem wrote: »
    I think we need a diary on here:

    Andypandy - Interview Monday 29th March
    Anniem - Interview Tuesday 30th March
    Rinske - Interview Thursday 7th April


    Anyone else got any dates of significance for our diary (not birthdays we already get those courtesy of the website!)

    Good luck guys ....

    well if we are putting dates down...

    1st April i leave my old job....

    6th April i start my new job...




    oh ...and.....

    29th April holidays to Spain :)
  • anniemanniem Experienced Mentor Pewsey, WiltshireRegistered Posts: 1,326
    Marga wrote: »
    Good luck guys ....

    well if we are putting dates down...

    1st April i leave my old job....

    6th April i start my new job...




    oh ...and.....

    29th April holidays to Spain :)

    Nice one Marga. I'm glad you're leaving your old job on April Fool and not starting the new one then!!!!!

    Good luck come 6th April - New tax year, new you!!!
    FMAAT - AAT Licensed Member in Practice - Pewsey, Wiltshire
  • AK002AK002 Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,492
    anniem wrote: »
    I think we need a diary on here:

    Andypandy - Interview Monday 29th March
    Anniem - Interview Tuesday 30th March
    Rinske - Interview Thursday 7th April


    Anyone else got any dates of significance for our diary (not birthdays we already get those courtesy of the website!)

    Hm.

    4th - 7th May - Auditing in Kilmarnock
    24th - 27th May - Auditing in Carlisle
    10th - 17th June - Study Leave
    12th - 16th July - Auditing

    And working in between that too.. lol.

    You'll note no holidays :(... I've none planned!! My life is boring and geared towards work at the moment lol...
  • blobbyhblobbyh Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,415
    You should definitely consider moving cross sector Vic, from practice to industry. You have administrative skills which would stand you in good stead compared to someone who has solely done accounts prep and put you on a level playing field with those currently within the other sectors. I'd also argue that the promotion prospects and money is generally much better outside practice than within it unless you can achieve high manager or partner status.
  • MargaMarga Experienced Mentor Registered Posts: 981
    blobbyh wrote: »
    You should definitely consider moving cross sector Vic, from practice to industry. You have administrative skills which would stand you in good stead compared to someone who has solely done accounts prep and put you on a level playing field with those currently within the other sectors. I'd also argue that the promotion prospects and money is generally much better outside practice than within it unless you can achieve high manager or partner status.

    hye i often hear pratice vs industry what do you mean by both

    is practice just working as an accountant purely and industry basically using your skills as an accountant in other companies like it, legal or business like?
  • A-VicA-Vic Expertise Guaranteed Registered Posts: 6,970
    blobbyh wrote: »
    You should definitely consider moving cross sector Vic, from practice to industry. You have administrative skills which would stand you in good stead compared to someone who has solely done accounts prep and put you on a level playing field with those currently within the other sectors. I'd also argue that the promotion prospects and money is generally much better outside practice than within it unless you can achieve high manager or partner status.

    Cheers robert i think at this momment anything that can offer a better future and propects (and money a little, but not the main prority) is what am looking for whether it be in practise or public. Thanks for the imput tho it deffo taken on board
  • Bookworm55Bookworm55 Trusted Regular Registered Posts: 479
    Rinske wrote: »
    Also, if you go for a purchase ledger job, it will be a lot of data entry (invoices) and some other stuff, but not really very much diverse, which gets boring really fast (at least that's my experience), sales ledger seems to be little to do with anything other then chasing customers and resolving queries, which for what I've seen from my colleague is really not something I want to do.

    It really depends on the company. In a small business you could be doing the entire purchase ledger/accounts payable function by yourself. Not just the basic data entry, managing the ledger itself and also into working capital management (esp. creditors and cashflow/expenditure forecasts) Same with sales ledger. It could be just data entry, but it could also be a lot broader, analysing period sales and managing credit control.

    I work for a large company as a purchase ledger clerk and am getting bored of being focused on a very small area of the finance function. I think I'd rather be the main "assistant (management) accountant" to the FD of a small company than one of sixty-odd accounts people. There's a lot of internal movement going on though as the group is being restructured so I'm keeping my eyes open to see if anything comes up.

    I'm on an ongoing-temp contract, but we were only meant to be there until the end of March. I'm being moved into another part of the accounts department after Easter, which is promising, but have no idea what they'll want me to do.
  • RinskeRinske Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,453
    Bookworm55 wrote: »
    It really depends on the company. In a small business you could be doing the entire purchase ledger/accounts payable function by yourself. Not just the basic data entry, managing the ledger itself and also into working capital management (esp. creditors and cashflow/expenditure forecasts) Same with sales ledger. It could be just data entry, but it could also be a lot broader, analysing period sales and managing credit control.

    I work for a large company as a purchase ledger clerk and am getting bored of being focused on a very small area of the finance function. I think I'd rather be the main "assistant (management) accountant" to the FD of a small company than one of sixty-odd accounts people. There's a lot of internal movement going on though as the group is being restructured so I'm keeping my eyes open to see if anything comes up.

    I'm on an ongoing-temp contract, but we were only meant to be there until the end of March. I'm being moved into another part of the accounts department after Easter, which is promising, but have no idea what they'll want me to do.
    Well, my current job is purchase ledger with just two people. I do everything from data entry, matching, payment runs, and a weekly cash forecast, but in comparison my days mainly exist of data entry, chasing up other departments for authorisation and on Tuesday/ Wednesday's the cash forecast and payment run, which only takes up a small bit of my time. I also deal with suppliers, but that really only is the odd phonecall to chase and for the rest if there is a query, the ordering department is supposed to sort it out themselves, as we don't know enough specifics.

    I got the feeling that this would be the same for any purchase ledger role. A vic comes from a practice, which to me means a lot more diverse work then on one specific ledger role.

    I am looking for an assistant accountant job as well, for the same reason as you do, focussing on one part is getting boring.

    @ Marga:
    The difference is practice is the accounting offices that work for a lot of customers and do the accounts for the customers while industry is basically doing the accountancy within the company, just for that company or group of companies, but this can be any type of company and doesn't mean a manufacturer.
  • RinskeRinske Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,453
    Stupid question:
    I planned the job interview Friday with the lady who does the interview, keeping in mind that my work would not be happy if I took some time off and tried to plan around deadlines. We set the time and date and she would confirm it to me in writing, together with some extra forms I needed to fill in.

    Today I come at work and there has just been an email sent around that due to some reasons the deadlines have been moved. Basically the result is that my interview is at the worst possible time at work and having to ask the time off will be not appreciated at all.

    Do you think I should call the company and ask them if I can move the date or time? As we agreed it on Friday on my suggestion, I don't know if she would appreciate me calling to rearrange it again.

    Thanks in advance,
    Rinske
  • blobbyhblobbyh Font Of All Knowledge Registered Posts: 2,415
    Yup, give her a call and rearrange it. Most potential employers should be be sympathetic for these situations and if you're good enough to get to interview stage, they should be good enough to accommodate you BUT the later you leave it, the less amenable they might become.
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