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  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    PPE- shows how it should be shown at cost incl costs to make it in working condition, also deals with depreciation

    Q. what is PURP??

    now this one i do know
    the after effects of a really good ruby murry ? lol nite peeps
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    IFRS isn't examinable of included in DFS
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Esme wrote: ยป
    IFRS isn't examinable of included in DFS

    i thought IFRS 8 is now? as of this sitting?

    i have a question
    ABC Ltd has a 75% shareholding in a subsidiary company that was purchased for ยฃ25,000,000 on 1st April 2009. At this time the balance on the subsidiaryโ€™s retained earnings was ยฃ1,980,000.

    Below is an extract from the subsidiaryโ€™s Statement of Financial Position at 31st March 2010:

    Equity ยฃ000
    Ordinary Share Capital 15000
    Share Premium 6000
    Revaluation Reserve 4000
    Retained Earnings 2540
    โ€”โ€”โ€”
    Total Equity 27540


    There have been no issues of shares or revaluations of PPE during the year ended 31st March 2010.

    The directors of ABC Ltd have concluded that at 31st March 2010 goodwill has been impaired by 20%.

    What value for Goodwill should be included in the consolidated Statement of Financial Position at 31st March 2010?


    a ยฃ4,765,000
    b ยฃ3,476,000
    cยฃ3,812,000
    dยฃ4,345,000

    i think it's b?
  • taskey
    taskey Registered Posts: 1,800 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    i thought IFRS 8 is now? as of this sitting?

    i have a question
    ABC Ltd has a 75% shareholding in a subsidiary company that was purchased for ยฃ25,000,000 on 1st April 2009. At this time the balance on the subsidiaryโ€™s retained earnings was ยฃ1,980,000.

    Below is an extract from the subsidiaryโ€™s Statement of Financial Position at 31st March 2010:

    Equity ยฃ000
    Ordinary Share Capital 15000
    Share Premium 6000
    Revaluation Reserve 4000
    Retained Earnings 2540
    โ€”โ€”โ€”
    Total Equity 27540


    There have been no issues of shares or revaluations of PPE during the year ended 31st March 2010.

    The directors of ABC Ltd have concluded that at 31st March 2010 goodwill has been impaired by 20%.

    What value for Goodwill should be included in the consolidated Statement of Financial Position at 31st March 2010?


    a ยฃ4,765,000
    b ยฃ3,476,000
    cยฃ3,812,000
    dยฃ4,345,000

    i think it's b?

    i get c 3812 (25000 - 20235 = 4765 @20% = 3812)
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    taskey wrote: ยป
    i get c 3812 (25000 - 20235 = 4765 @20% = 3812)

    20235??? where that come from?
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    I get 3,812 too.
  • taskey
    taskey Registered Posts: 1,800 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    20235??? where that come from?

    dont you just hate it not being tabbed correct lol
    the 75% of your figures
    .....................................................75%
    share cap...15000................................11250
    share prem...6000................................4500
    reval...4000.........................................1000
    post acq ...560 (2540-1980)
    pre acq...1980.....................................1485
    27540...................................20235

    then 25000 less 20235 = 4765 x 80%(opp of 20% = 3812
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,453 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    I got 3812 too.
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    all right all right you clever lot. can you explain this one i have copied and pasted

    David disposed of his unincorporated business in August 2009 and made the following gains and losses: -

    Factory ยฃ300,000 gain
    Warehouse ยฃ80,000 loss
    Goodwill ยฃ400,000 gain.


    During the 2009/10 tax year he also disposed of an antique grandfather clock and realised a gain of ยฃ10,000.

    What is David's total chargeable gain, before the annual exemption?

    I.ยฃ630,000
    II.ยฃ285,556
    III.ยฃ630,000
    IV.ยฃ354,444


    explain this one
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,453 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    Stupid question, but I feel stumped, is this tax instead of DFS?
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Rinske wrote: ยป
    Stupid question, but I feel stumped, is this tax instead of DFS?

    see i'm that good at exams i put the wrong questions in the wrong thread
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    there it is now on BTC thread. was getting carried away
  • reddwarf
    reddwarf Registered Posts: 528 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Going back to IFRS's!!, as I understand it, we need to know about IFRS1, IFRS3, IFRS5, and IFRS8 don't we?
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Just asked my tutor and IFRS 8 is examinable now! First I've heard of it 3 weeks before the exam :(

    Has anyone got a list of the IFRS's and IAS's which are examinable?
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,453 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    Going back to IFRS's!!, as I understand it, we need to know about IFRS1, IFRS3, IFRS5, and IFRS8 don't we?
    I think IFRS 1 is not assessable.
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,453 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    Esme, the list is easiest to find if you go to My AAT to the section of DFS past exam papers and download the Unit_11_DFS_Guidance (revised feb) file.

    For some reason it complaints it's too big to upload, so I can't add it here. (And I'm too lazy to retype them all)

    This morning I posted a quick summary of IFRS 8 for Rachey in the FAO Rachey thread, it might be useful, it might also be completely useless to you. But have a look if you like.

    I got most of the information from 2 different sites:

    http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/accounting/ias/standards_en.htm
    And
    http://www.accaglobal.com/members/publications/accounting_business/CPD/3026959
  • reddwarf
    reddwarf Registered Posts: 528 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    yep IFRS1 isn't assessable thanks!
  • reddwarf
    reddwarf Registered Posts: 528 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    i'm going to ask a question if I may as we've stalled?!

    Co A Co B
    ROCE 20% 15%
    Net profit marg 25% 20%
    Asset Turn 0.8:1 0.75:1
    GP marg 45% 50%
    Expenses/Rev 20% 30%

    These two companies are potential takeover prospects for Co C, which one should Co C buy and why?
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    i'm going to ask a question if I may as we've stalled?!

    Co A Co B
    ROCE 20% 15%
    Net profit marg 25% 20%
    Asset Turn 0.8:1 0.75:1
    GP marg 45% 50%
    Expenses/Rev 20% 30%

    These two companies are potential takeover prospects for Co C, which one should Co C buy and why?

    A as even though th GP margin is lower the others are better so it looks more positive
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,453 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    I agree with Primble!

    The return on capital employed is higher for A, the net profit margin is higher, the asset turnover is better, as it is higher and their expenses are lower compared to B.

    Next question Primble?
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Rinske wrote: ยป
    I agree with Primble!

    The return on capital employed is higher for A, the net profit margin is higher, the asset turnover is better, as it is higher and their expenses are lower compared to B.

    Next question Primble?

    right this time i'll make sure i have the right subject this time

    what is the logic behind IAS 2?
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,453 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    IAS 2 is for inventories, I'm not sure what you mean with what the logic is behind it.

    You should value inventories at the lower of cost or net realisable value, so that the inventories are valued at a true and fair value, which reflects properly in the books.

    But I'm not sure if this is anywhere near what you mean....
  • reddwarf
    reddwarf Registered Posts: 528 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    I did look in my book ....

    A is better but, if co B could be made more efficient in terms of expenses and asset use by new management, given better gp it might be worth considering for takeover

    so now who is going next as you were both right?
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Rinske wrote: ยป
    Esme, the list is easiest to find if you go to My AAT to the section of DFS past exam papers and download the Unit_11_DFS_Guidance (revised feb) file.

    For some reason it complaints it's too big to upload, so I can't add it here. (And I'm too lazy to retype them all)

    This morning I posted a quick summary of IFRS 8 for Rachey in the FAO Rachey thread, it might be useful, it might also be completely useless to you. But have a look if you like.

    I got most of the information from 2 different sites:

    http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/accounting/ias/standards_en.htm
    And
    http://www.accaglobal.com/members/publications/accounting_business/CPD/3026959

    Thanks rinske
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Rinske wrote: ยป
    IAS 2 is for inventories, I'm not sure what you mean with what the logic is behind it.

    You should value inventories at the lower of cost or net realisable value, so that the inventories are valued at a true and fair value, which reflects properly in the books.

    But I'm not sure if this is anywhere near what you mean....

    yup it is
  • Rinske
    Rinske Registered Posts: 2,453 Beyond epic contributor ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ
    Oh, in that case, was I right?

    New question:
    Marketing costs, would you classify them as distribution costs or administrative expenses and why?
  • Primble
    Primble Registered Posts: 734 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Rinske wrote: ยป
    Oh, in that case, was I right?

    New question:
    Marketing costs, would you classify them as distribution costs or administrative expenses and why?

    yes i think so
  • reddwarf
    reddwarf Registered Posts: 528 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    i'm guessing are they a function of distribution?
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Distribution- not sure why though.

    What is the objective of financial statements accoreding to the framework for the preperation and presentation of financial statements?
  • Rachey
    Rachey Registered Posts: 589 Epic contributor ๐Ÿ˜
    Esme wrote: ยป
    Distribution- not sure why though.

    What is the objective of financial statements accoreding to the framework for the preperation and presentation of financial statements?

    I'd class them as administration, I suppose it's a personal judgement. It'd be a little harsh if we were to get marked down on it though.

    I'm too poorly to ask / answer big questions today though sorry :-( i'll leave it for somebody else!!!
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