pcr dec 09

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  • jow774
    jow774 Registered Posts: 465 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    Hopefully Sandy Hood will have been able to get hold of a paper and can let us have his answers to put our minds at rest.
  • COMA
    COMA Registered Posts: 21 New contributor 🐸
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    Andypandy wrote: »
    I assumed we were using absorption costing for the cost per unit & ended up with £1.12
    Andrea

    Yeah, the proforma in 1.2 clearly calculated the profit based on absorption costing so I guess that's what should be used for stock valuation...
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Closing stock value per unit

    Standard labour hours cost - 202,400*12 = £2,428,800
    Overtime cost - 17,600*18 = £316,800
    Total labour cost / good production = 2,745,600/10,350,00 = £0.27p

    Material cost - 0.20*3 = £0.60p

    Anyone remember any of the overhead costs?
  • Esme
    Esme Registered Posts: 711 Epic contributor 🐘
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    Jointy wrote: »
    I got £1.09 for closing stock per unit

    materials 0.20 x 3kg = 0.60p

    labour - total labour cost / good production

    overheads - total overheads / good production

    cant remember figures for labour and overheads per unit

    anyone else do it like this?

    I got 1.09 and then divided the total cost of production between the units which came to 1.06 so I used that figure instead.
  • borolad
    borolad Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    Jointy, i got same figure of 4,087,500 for qt3 just as you and this translate to 81,750hr (4087500x.02) or (4087500x20)/20. Take that away from the available basic hours, you get an overtime hours of almost half or thereabout...which threw me off at first, but i think it's the right way to go.
  • Woooof
    Woooof Registered Posts: 174 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    COMA wrote: »
    Yeah, the proforma in 1.2 clearly calculated the profit based on absorption costing so I guess that's what should be used for stock valuation...
    Was it clear?!? Something like that is usually in the text :/ Ah well, one figure shouldn't mean a fail :)
  • Woooof
    Woooof Registered Posts: 174 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    borolad wrote: »
    Jointy, i got same figure of 4,087,500 for qt3 just as you and this translate to 81,750hr (4087500x.02) or (4087500x20)/20. Take that away from the available basic hours, you get an overtime hours of almost half or thereabout...which threw me off at first, but i think it's the right way to go.

    That was the saleable amount needed. You needed to do 4087500/95 * 100 to get the Production needed.
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Esme wrote: »
    I got 1.09 and then divided the total cost of production between the units which came to 1.06 so I used that figure instead.

    £1.09 interesting just cant remember the overhead costs

    Got the labour and material per unit figures
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Woooof wrote: »
    That was the saleable amount needed. You needed to do 4087500/95 * 100 to get the Production needed.

    Yep i did this.
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    David0097 wrote: »
    Did anyone else get along the same line as this?

    1.1a 10,350,000
    1.1b 10,450,000
    1.1c 33,012,000
    1.1e 220,000 hours needed so 17,600 hours overtime

    1.2a sp = £1.35 so turnover is £13,972,500
    1.2b - material cost 6,602,400
    1.2c - Std wages = £2,428,800
    - Overtime - £316,800
    - total - £2745,600
    1.2d - Overheads £2359,400

    1.4 New overtime (35,537hrs) £639,666 is more than double the previous amount which is not possible as every employee would have to work over 70hrs extra each month. This additional labour can be outsourced (agency)

    2.1a - £40
    2.1b - £7
    2.1c - 45mins or 0.75hrs
    2.1d - 10p or £0.1
    2.1 e £25,000
    2.1f £4000 per step

    2.2a total variance is £86,050F alothough every cost was an adverse apart from depreciation?

    Anyone else get answers like this?

    I mucked up my closing stock calculation for the table....

    This was posted on another forum if it helps anyone.
  • Rachey
    Rachey Registered Posts: 589 Epic contributor 🐘
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    I dont remember which questions they were but hopefully someone will see familiar figures and re-assure me!! Think it was section 2- £40 selling price, £25000 fixed energy cost, 45mins to produce a pack then reduced to 43.5mins. £4000 stepped cost for equip hire & a £2000 Adverse variance on depreciation. I wrote more than that but cant remember them all! Emails all pretty straight forward compared to Mondays PEV!! Dont remember much of section 1, it's all a bit of a blur!!
  • charlie11
    charlie11 Registered Posts: 5 New contributor 🐸
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    PCR Dec 09 exam

    does anyone have some answers for section 2 please ?
  • A-Vic
    A-Vic Registered Posts: 6,970 Beyond epic contributor 🧙‍♂️
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    after reading this i thought dfs was hard am dreading MAC
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Standard labour hours cost - 202,400*12 = £2,428,800
    Overtime cost - 17,600*18 = £316,800
    Total labour cost / good production = 2,745,600/10,350,000 = £0.27p

    Material cost - 0.20*3 = £0.60p

    Overhead cost - £2,359,400/10,350,000 = £0.23p

    Total cost per unit - £1.10

    Not sure if this correct I put £1.09 but I could have rounded wrong.

    I took the overhead figure off someone else but seems right I think.
  • exam panic
    exam panic Registered Posts: 157 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    i CAN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING .

    You guys must have a super memory ... all I remember pcr 2009 and loads of numbers and the written part ... hope I pass but I remember on section 1 they gave us labour hours so we have to work out from that but I'm not sure right or wrong .
  • Andypandy
    Andypandy Registered Posts: 526 Epic contributor 🐘
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    I think Jointy has a photographic memory!
    Andrea
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Andypandy wrote: »
    I think Jointy has a photographic memory!
    Andrea

    Lol i have been mix matching of all peoples post taking the different costs and putting it all together.
  • COMA
    COMA Registered Posts: 21 New contributor 🐸
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    Jointy wrote: »
    Lol i have been mix matching of all peoples post taking the different costs and putting it all together.

    And trying to end up with £1.09 in the end (or convincing yourself that £1.10 is almost £1.09 as you must have rounded sth up differently) :p

    J/K
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    COMA wrote: »
    And trying to end up with £1.09 in the end (or convincing yourself that £1.10 is almost £1.09 as you must have rounded sth up differently) :p

    J/K

    Haha was seeing if I could get to it, must of done summat wrong its not major I dont think
  • exam panic
    exam panic Registered Posts: 157 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    I think i GOT 1.O5777 SO I rounded up to 1.06

    1.06
  • goodyuk
    goodyuk Registered Posts: 50 Regular contributor ⭐
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    exam panic wrote: »
    1.06
    I initially got £1.12 but then convinced myself it was £1.14 and went with that, can't remember how! I know I changed my mind from using £0.60 for material cost or whatever it was and used £0.63 by working it out a different way
  • goodyuk
    goodyuk Registered Posts: 50 Regular contributor ⭐
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    Jointy wrote: »
    This was posted on another forum if it helps anyone.
    OMG thank God for that! I came out stressed feeling I might have messed it up but *most* of those look familiar! YEY
  • Kathy Henderson
    Kathy Henderson Registered Posts: 20 New contributor 🐸
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    Absorbsion question

    I added up all the costs labour, materials and overheads and divided by saleable units (the number calculated in 1.1 b cant remember how much it was but i got 1.12, What did people get for the variance in 2.1?
  • Highlander1
    Highlander1 Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    Woooof wrote: »
    Yep. And I recommended temporary staff, even worked out a saving for them if we paid them the same as the other staff :P
    I recommended using the idle time in the quarter 1 & 2 and sourcing additional storage.
  • Highlander1
    Highlander1 Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    COMA wrote: »
    And trying to end up with £1.09 in the end (or convincing yourself that £1.10 is almost £1.09 as you must have rounded sth up differently) :p

    J/K
    I got £1.07 - haven't seen that quoted anywhere yet!
  • Highlander1
    Highlander1 Registered Posts: 9 New contributor 🐸
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    Jointy wrote: »
    This was posted on another forum if it helps anyone.
    I agree with most of the above however, 1.1c is 11,000,000 and 1.1 d is as you have said against 1.3c 33,012,000!

    1.2 e) Budgetted cost per K Roll - I got £1.07

    Operating profit £2,711,000 altho I suspect this may be wrong!

    In addition I calculated the following for 1.3

    1.3a) Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
    2,037,500 1,817,500 4,087,500 2,407,500 Units
    1.3b) 2,137,500 1,817,500 4,087,500 2,407,500 Units + stock
    1.3c) 2,250,000 1,913,158 4,302,632 2,534,211 + 5% wastage
    1.3d) 5,600 idle/t 12,336 idle/t 35,453 o/t 85 o/t
    1.3e) £638,154 o/t £1,530o/t

    Agree with answers to 2 except I got a total varaince of £90,550 F (£829,200 flexed - £919,715 actual)

    Lastly, Actual labour amounted to £12.50 ie £0.50 increase. Savings in time = 1.5 mins per package. Overall I had a saving of 1,700 hrs ie (1.5 mins x 68,000 units/60) x £12 per hr = £20,400, therefore the bonus scheme had been worthwhile as the net saving for the period amounted to £16,150. Does anyone else agree? I do hope so!
  • COMA
    COMA Registered Posts: 21 New contributor 🐸
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    I agree with most of the above however, 1.1c is 11,000,000 and 1.1 d is as you have said against 1.3c 33,012,000!

    1.2 e) Budgetted cost per K Roll - I got £1.07

    Operating profit £2,711,000 altho I suspect this may be wrong!

    In addition I calculated the following for 1.3

    1.3a) Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
    2,037,500 1,817,500 4,087,500 2,407,500 Units
    1.3b) 2,137,500 1,817,500 4,087,500 2,407,500 Units + stock
    1.3c) 2,250,000 1,913,158 4,302,632 2,534,211 + 5% wastage
    1.3d) 5,600 idle/t 12,336 idle/t 35,453 o/t 85 o/t
    1.3e) £638,154 o/t £1,530o/t

    Agree with answers to 2 except I got a total varaince of £90,550 F (£829,200 flexed - £919,715 actual)

    Lastly, Actual labour amounted to £12.50 ie £0.50 increase. Savings in time = 1.5 mins per package. Overall I had a saving of 1,700 hrs ie (1.5 mins x 68,000 units/60) x £12 per hr = £20,400, therefore the bonus scheme had been worthwhile as the net saving for the period amounted to £16,150. Does anyone else agree? I do hope so!

    My answers were identical apart from:

    1.2e - I got £1.12
    2.2 - I wrote that it wasn't worthwile as the hourly rate increased by 4.17% whereas the time shortened by 3.33% only, which is supported by the 4000 something adverse labour variance.
  • Lou1234
    Lou1234 Registered Posts: 210 Dedicated contributor 🦉
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    I got £90550 F total variance as well for section 2 which I haven't seen anyone else except Highlander 1 post!

    Anyone else?
  • Jointy
    Jointy Registered Posts: 78 Regular contributor ⭐
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    I agree with most of the above however, 1.1c is 11,000,000 and 1.1 d is as you have said against 1.3c 33,012,000!

    1.2 e) Budgetted cost per K Roll - I got £1.07

    Operating profit £2,711,000 altho I suspect this may be wrong!

    In addition I calculated the following for 1.3

    1.3a) Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
    2,037,500 1,817,500 4,087,500 2,407,500 Units
    1.3b) 2,137,500 1,817,500 4,087,500 2,407,500 Units + stock
    1.3c) 2,250,000 1,913,158 4,302,632 2,534,211 + 5% wastage
    1.3d) 5,600 idle/t 12,336 idle/t 35,453 o/t 85 o/t
    1.3e) £638,154 o/t £1,530o/t

    Agree with answers to 2 except I got a total varaince of £90,550 F (£829,200 flexed - £919,715 actual)

    Lastly, Actual labour amounted to £12.50 ie £0.50 increase. Savings in time = 1.5 mins per package. Overall I had a saving of 1,700 hrs ie (1.5 mins x 68,000 units/60) x £12 per hr = £20,400, therefore the bonus scheme had been worthwhile as the net saving for the period amounted to £16,150. Does anyone else agree? I do hope so!

    The bonus scheme ended up costing the business £4250 more than if they didnt do it. I cant remember my calculation but it matched the flexed budget which was 4250 adverse
  • rachelrunshaw
    rachelrunshaw Registered Posts: 41 Regular contributor ⭐
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    charlie11 wrote: »
    does anyone have some answers for section 2 please ?

    Hi Charlie
    For section 2 I got:
    136000 F - Turnover
    34000A
    4250A
    200A
    3000A
    1000A
    2000F - Dep'n
    4000A
    3000A
    47450A - Total Expenses
    88550F - Operating Profit
    Can't remember now what figures matched materials, labour etc. I then went on in the email to say the bonus scheme had not improved production efficiency and that the overall favourable variance was due to the turnover/ selling price.
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